She has to be working in that area at that time in order to have scenes available. Its not something you have total control over. You kind of just need to wait until it pops up. The game is best played when you have a number of girlpacks which all have a variety of content, and you just enjoy what comes to you as it does. The randomness is a feature.
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I see. I was expecting that screen would display who was available in the baths, even if there weren't any "clients" at the moment.
For myself, it would be nice if you could see whether someone was on the main stage while you're on the gloryhole screen. I like the main stage because I like the randomness of not knowing which girl's video will play next. It would be nice if I could watch the bath videos while I wait for someone to be on the main stage, but not have to keep checking back every few seconds.
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Once you have the various parts of the club bought and upgraded, then at night once you open, when there are girls working in those areas, you'll see their avatar on the main screen. Then you can go into that part and click on them to watch them with clients. In my experience, the first hour or so after club opening may or may not have anyone on stage dancing, then after that all of the areas might be working, then at the end before you close the gloryhole might be the only place that they are. That setup is pretty common.
Wrapping all of your messages, it'd be probably "just funnier" for you to skip at the end of the night immediately after opening the club, and just use the CCTV section the morning after.
As for your *endless journey to see gloryhole contents*, mind that for a girl to perform in a specific location, she needs:
- contents for that location
- performances for that location unlocked (check the girls inspector in the relevant area, train them if still locked)
- no better alternative (in general if you have few girls and the game can allocate those girls to VIP it will do so as you gain more money).
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Ah, so that's what the CCTV is for. I was really confused why I would need a security camera on the stage, when I can already see what's happening on the stage.
Ah, so that's what the Call Girl button is for in the locations. I thought it was just so you could see the girl's scenes during the day.
I'm guessing it's probably the lack of training more than this, since I don't even have VIP unlocked.
In any case, I seem to be making a ton of money now from the drug and alcohol trade, so it seems like I can probably just treat the sexual stuff as a bonus.
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I assume that, if I want to sell condoms, I need to have someone assigned as a maid. But do they have to also meet all the quoted requirements to do sales, or is it enough just to be assigned?
No you don't need maids to sell condoms.
Also, mind that without condoms girls can't do sex actions.
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So is the reason that nobody's buying condoms because none of my girls have enough training to do sex actions yet?
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If they don't buy condoms from you, then you don't have any girls who can have sex.
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I may be wrong here because I played the game 100 years ago and I may be wrong, but the bartender is responsible for selling these things at the time of the club's operation.
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I've been playing around with that since then, and I do like it better in some ways, but I'm still having a lot of problems with the overall "black box" nature of this game. By which I mean, the game doesn't give information about why things happen or how to make things happen.
For instance, in the last night I just played, I had 4 girls assigned to Stage, 4 to VIP, 2 to Bar and 1 to Bouncer. The night was cut short because of rowdy guests. What do I need to do to prevent that? The blurb about the closing mentions the bouncer not being able to handle it, but that's the only hint I get. Do I need to assign more girls to be bouncer, do I need to assign a bouncer with more training, do I need to improve my character's Strength, do I need to upgrade the Bouncer facility? I don't know, and it doesn't seem possible to know just from the information within the game itself.
Meanwhile, the CCTV for Stage showed five videos, and they were all of the same girl. The other three girls I had assigned to Stage have all shown clips before, so it's not like they aren't trained enough. Is their energy or mood too low, or was the one girl preempting them because her variables were all a bit higher than theirs, or was it just dumb luck? I have no earthly idea, based on the information the game provides.
And the crazy thing is, that's all kind of irrelevant as far as the challenge of the game we were discussing earlier. As a test, I ran another night where I assigned all the girls to either Bar, Bouncer, or Rest (none of the dispositions that show clips), and I still made plenty of revenue from Tickets/Drinks/Cigars/Drugs (over 100k, even with the club being closed early, and it might have been more if I hadn't forgotten to restock supplies). You said you weren't intrigued by TUSC being basically a video player, because "a game should be a game," but it seems to me that the sexy video clips are already not salient to the business management part of the game in any meaningful sense.
Sorry about all this venting over the perceived flaws in a free game. As someone who's dabbled in coding myself, I know it ain't easy, and I appreciate how much of a thankless task this can be. I'm not trying to knock your skills as a developer, or even your personal tastes in what the game should be like, I just get frustrated by things I don't understand.
I use VC as a "semi-random porn clip viewer," and I thought TUSC could have value as an alternate way of doing that. I like that VC lets you watch up to six clips at once, because a lot of the girlpacks I download have angles or poses that don't appeal to me (let's just say I'm not a butt guy), so if one of the clips is not to my tastes, I can just look at one of the others that are also on the screen. Since TUSC automatically and exclusively zooms in on one video, I thought it might be nice to have a few of my most polished or personalized packs (11 at the moment), mostly purged of clips I don't like, and enjoy the "quality over quantity." At first, I really liked how I could assign some girls to the stage and not know which one's clip was gonna be coming up next. Eventually I started to have problems with "batching" like what I described above. And if I want to see anything more hardcore than Pose, I have to go to VIP, but I also have to pick which Slot I want to view, which kinda feels like it's going back to the same old VC thing of picking a girl and then watching one of their videos. There's too many cases where things only work in a certain way or under certain conditions.
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...I wouldn't be derailing this thread with a long rant about how the game doesn't fit my own personal subjective tastes, if there were any other activity here at all. But since it seems like people here don't have much to talk about, let me go ahead and offer my wishlist for what would suit my personal subjective tastes in a v2 of this game, or if someone else ever made a separate game along similar lines.
- More satisfying randomness: I would like to watch a series of clips that have all available scene types in one place. I want to be able to control which girls are active for that series of clips, but I don't want any girl to show noticeably more clips than any other girl, unless that's the result of some kind of rating system (like, I can rate girls from 1 to 5 stars, and girls with higher ratings show up more often). Same is true for the types of clips. I don't want a noticeable majority of clips to be one category of sex act, unless it was the result of me setting some sliders or tuning some dials to tilt the balance in favor of the categories I like best. And yes, I do understand that sometimes pure randomness results in repetitive clusters like that. I'm saying my personal preference is for the script to actively impose an artificial balance on top of the randomness. Like, if two clips have played of one girl, then the script should prevent any further clips of that girl being played until there's been at least one clip of every other active girl (assuming there's no ranking system allowing the player to express a preference for some girls over others). And maybe the script should even keep track of previous nights, so that it will be less likely for that same girl to get two clips again next time. Legitimately pure randomness often doesn't feel random to the human mind.
My preference is to have one big pot of random clips all in one place, but I don't want clusters of similar clips (either the same girl or the same category), whether they're caused by randomness or game variables like training, experience, mood, energy, etc. - Gallery mode: I agree a game should be a game. I enjoy watching semi-random porn clips in VC better than a playlist in VLC, because it's a game. But, one very consistent rule of every sexy management game I've ever played (whether it be VC, TUSC, Whoremaster, SimBro, Lab Rats 2, etc.) is that they reach a point where you've built enough of a money-making engine that you really don't need to worry about the desperate struggle for financial survival anymore, and can coast along simply enjoying the lewd content. All I'm saying is, why not have an option to let people skip straight to that point, if they just feel like wanking instead of running a business at the moment? It doesn't even need to be an entirely separate game mode, it could be as simple as starting the player with all the girls already recruited and all the upgrades already unlocked. It doesn't seem like that would take much time or effort to implement, so why not?
My preference is to be able to start a new game and be able to immediately see all the different girls I have packs for, without needing to jump through all the management hoops if I don't feel like it that day. - Sexier management: If a game should be a game, then a sexy game that is also a management game should be a sexy management game. By which I mean, the lewd content should be closely tied to the management aspect. In this game, you might need some strippers on stage for a short period when you're just starting out, but it doesn't take long to reach a point where you can make money hand over fist without any of the girls doing anything sexy (and if I'm being completely honest, without doing any management stuff more complicated than restocking shelves). That's not a sexy management game. I know you don't want this game to be just a video player, but that doesn't mean the videos (or the profitable acts that they represent in-game) should be totally unnecessary. I think it can kinda make the sex scenes more sexy to know that I wouldn't have been able to pay the bills without them. Not that I want to be that close to bankruptcy all the time, but the point is simply that tying in the sexy bits to the maagement can enhance the sexiness of them.
My preference, when I do feel like enjoying the management element of the game, is for it to feel intrinsically tied to the sex acts portrayed in the porn clips, and not feel like the sexy content is just a tangential distraction from the real money-making options. - Clarity: Make the management aspects of the game something that can be understood in-game, without people like me having to write long posts in a discussion thread explaining all the things that confuse them about why this or that isn't happening. It's been quite a while since I first started playing Venus Club, so maybe I'm just forgetting some growing pains there, but it didn't seem to have nearly as many "why is that happening" (or not happening) moments. If a game says something like "staff ready for opening: 3/11," there should also be something in the game that clearly states why the other 8 are not ready.
My preference is for the game to tell me about variable and conditionals that are being used to determine what's happening in the game, instead of leaving me to wildly guess or hope that someone else can explain it.
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It's been a little while since I played TUSC (I've been playing VC lately myself), but as I recall, when the guests get rowdy, assigning more girls to the bouncer role, better trained bouncers, or upgrading the bouncer facility are all options. The "right" answer depends on what you can afford, and eventually, you can't assign more bouncers or train bouncers further, at which point, you really need to upgrade the facility.
Yes, energy and mood does play a role. Building facilities to keep the girls happier plays into it, then you get to see more sexy video clips.
Yes, there are stages in the game where you make more money from the bar than from the girls. But when you want to make even more money, you need the girls in VIP and elsewhere. You do eventually reach a point where you have a maxxed-out club, and then the problem is getting enough girls to keep up with demand. Then the game tops out when you have enough girls to meet customer demand, but not enough condoms. At that point, you're making several hundred thousand dollars per night.
I think there are points in the game where the clips become a little less relevant, but then they come back as your girls are ready to offer more services. Also there's opportunity outside the club to see sexy clips. Give your girls a night off to rest and visit the dance club, or one of the other stripclubs.
Does any of that help?
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But if I can already make around 300k (when the club doesn't close early), what do I care if I can get a little more than that? I've already bought all the upgrades, and recruited all the girls (since there are only 11 packs that I want to use at the moment), so I don't even need the money to progress anything. I guess I could use it to buy girls gifts to train them faster, but the point is when you're already making that much money, a little more doesn't seem to matter that much.
But hey, on the bright side, I guess I've got my gallery mode now.