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The Bud situation in TID was some kind if light netori.Iirc this is the first time ILS has netori
The Bud situation in TID was some kind if light netori.Iirc this is the first time ILS has netori
Strong disagree -- Bud never had a chance and him moving on was rooted around him recognizing thatThe Bud situation in TID was some kind if light netori.
Sure. But if Bud would be the MC, this would be a classic Netorare setup (Childhood friend who's pursued by MC gets stolen by new acuaintance). So the opposite should be netori, how ever not as drastic as if he would have been in a relationship.Strong disagree -- Bud never had a chance and him moving on was rooted around him recognizing that
See my earlier post about conditions for a 'good' mc to get a netori LI. Removing the partner from the situation is the only path other than a shitty partner. The problem with killing off the partner though, is you have to have a mourning period. You can probably excuse a 'moment of comfort', but past that, an actual ongoing relationship, generally requires weeks for the LI to mourn before being able to move on. Honestly, I would prefer a twist on 'removing' the partner, e.g., this contains a trope, but I'd buy it, basically Andrew and Kallie are best friends, he is gay but they decided to get engaged to to get his religious family off of his back. I.e., she's his 'beard' so they're not actually in a romantic relationship. It would explain the positive aspects, including how she's worried about his well being, but opens her up for a 'real' relationship, physical or otherwise with the MC.To be honest, I already felt uncomfortable enough with Laura scene knowing she is a married woman (even if she tried to justify that with the possible, but not even confimed, cheating from her husband).
Kallie seems to be on a healthy relationship with a decent enough man, relation which seems also to be in the blossoming stage, so taking advantage of the current crysis situation to be with her seems immoral to the extreme. The only way in which I could eventually and remotely find myself comfortable being intimate with her is if, for some reason, it's confirmed than her partner has died to the plague. Wild hipothetical plot twist here: Andrew (Kallie's fiance), tried to go and rescue her from the office building somehow, only to end up choked and drown into the toxic fog, which killed him and mutated somehow his body into the abomination we fought in the last chapter. Eventually the abomination will show again, we will have to defeat it somehow, and Kallie will recognize something of her ex-partner in the remains (clothes, a medal or memento of sorts, a wallet with ID documents hidden inside the abomination body... whatever). So, after this, and the expected deep trauma on Kallie for some time, MC will have green light to be with her![]()
I 100% see it going the way of "he was just using her for some other purpose" instead of just killing him off. Like you said, if he gets killed off, she was happy in the relationship and will take a long time to adjust, time we don't have in AVN land unless you're trying to turn Kallie into the slowest burn, which shouldn't be the case. Instead, Kallie will somehow discover that she was just a pawn in something or that Andrew isn't the person she thought he was and with the groundwork of trust/friendship already built up with the MC, be extremely susceptible to him at at that point. I'd also accept the beard approach but I don't know if that would be enough to cause Kallie to "cheat."See my earlier post about conditions for a 'good' mc to get a netori LI. Removing the partner from the situation is the only path other than a shitty partner. The problem with killing off the partner though, is you have to have a mourning period. You can probably excuse a 'moment of comfort', but past that, an actual ongoing relationship, generally requires weeks for the LI to mourn before being able to move on. Honestly, I would prefer a twist on 'removing' the partner, e.g., this contains a trope, but I'd buy it, basically Andrew and Kallie are best friends, he is gay but they decided to get engaged to to get his religious family off of his back. I.e., she's his 'beard' so they're not actually in a romantic relationship. It would explain the positive aspects, including how she's worried about his well being, but opens her up for a 'real' relationship, physical or otherwise with the MC.
I think your definition of netorare differs from mine. If an MC never has a chance with someone that means that woman was never a potential LI. I.e., you can't get cucked if you never stood a chancel inSure. But if Bud would be the MC, this would be a classic Netorare setup. So the opposite should be netori, how ever not as drastic as if he woukd have been in a relationship.
I added the trope in the post above, which is a household staple in the japanese source material of these genres. So if your definition varies from the original usage, thats on you.I think your definition of netorare differs from mine. If an MC never has a chance with someone that means that woman was never a potential LI. I.e., you can't get cucked if you never stood a chancel inHellThe Interim of getting the girl.
So I just kinda thought about this thoroughly as I finally started down the rabbit hole of chapter 3. They keep referring to "fumes" with the fog going outside, and I wonder if its ILS dropping subtle hints at times lol. So basically the reason the AC kept working, the Elevators kept working and the Cars didnt, is potentially a cause of the substance the fog is made out of. If the cars are sitting out in it, it could circulate into the fuel injection which caused the cars to sputter like they did (even being slightly usable) before they eventually died. Essentially just completely tanking the engine, cars wont run if the engine seizes either.I suppose one could connect the fog damaging the electrical parts of the elevator to what's going on with the cars outside. That said, the cars are out in the thick of it, and the elevator is in a building so it would take considerably longer to be affected, if it's the electronics being affected at all (going off the fact the cars won't start being connected to battery trouble).
I can't say I'd take the elevator in this scenario either.
Thankfully wasn't much of a cliffhanger this release. Always hate the ones that are major like "antagonist appears, MC confronts antagonist <fade to black>" This one's just right, its like leaving off in a spot that is perfect for the next chapter to start.Well, that's what cliffhangers are meant to do. We've had one at the end of each release, and I suspect there will be one for each and every future release until the game is completed.
You are forewarned!![]()
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I want our MC to continue to be a good guy and someone I can imagine being happy to have a beer with (that is how I see each of the MCs in the dev's 3 AVNs- a guy I can identify with versus a Ninja or superhero out slumming with us mortals...).
I don't feel like the MC and Laura having sex was a betrayal of their relationship and we are trusting that Laura is telling us the truth about how broken her marriage is.
I understand how a man and a woman can get into a relationship rut - without any gaslighting or cheating.
I've also seen what can happen when one or both people have become emotionally invested in someone not their partner and how that can get physical.
Based on what we know about Laura and the MC - I don't see either as cheaters by intent (although a strict societal definition says that they are cheating since she is married, even if to someone she is certain is cheating on her).
At this stage, she is not looking to leave her marriage for the MC and she and the MC are finding comfort in each other and giving Laura in particular something that makes her life just a little less shitty.
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Kallie is still someone we know very little about.
She has begun to open up to Laura and to the MC, but only at the beginning stages.
Right now, the information we have says that her fiancée is a good guy, and they have a good/great relationship.
We'll have to let the story play out to see what catalyst prompts Kallie and the MC to choose to find comfort with each other.
Whatever happens, I want it to be organic to the story and I want our MC to continue to be a good guy who is not taking advantage of a woman who is vulnerable, scared, and not well equipped to defend herself.
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He couldn't take the negativity of people. Few people said anything positive, and he just removed himself from the situation. If you want to discuss with him, join his Discord. I am there and see what goes on, and he is pretty active.Very little to add to this. Except maybe that it's a shame Kinderfeld doesn't log into F95 anymore since a couple of years ago to read feedback like this
In any case, eagerly waiting for the next chapter. Fingers crossed
Was that back because of the part where the redhead was leaving in N&T ?He couldn't take the negativity of people. Few people said anything positive, and he just removed himself from the situation. If you want to discuss with him, join his Discord. I am there and see what goes on, and he is pretty active.
I don't think it was one thing. It was probably more a situation like death by 100 cuts. He was pretty active under N&T, but when TID came out, people really attacked him, PMed him, etc. At that point, the site handled the updates on their own (he posted the public links, they magically got posted here), so he didn't need to do anything and saw zero benefit from staying here. I cannot say more, as I am not him.Was that back because of the part where the redhead was leaving in N&T ?
Or at least that's the one larger argument i remember.
He was still present during N&T, even after a bug revealed a ntr ending for Carol and Naomi (hardly considered ntr since you had to treat them bad or ignore them in order to get it AFAIR). There were some triggered fans, but Kinderfeld still logged on here. It was during the development of TID that something may have happened (fans getting more annoying and demanding than usual probably) and Kinderfeld decided to abandon F95.Was that back because of the part where the redhead was leaving in N&T ?
Or at least that's the one larger argument i remember.
I'm assuming his discord is for Patrons only, because I don't remember having seen a link to his channel anywhere neither here nor on Itch.io (the platform I use to follow his games).He couldn't take the negativity of people. Few people said anything positive, and he just removed himself from the situation. If you want to discuss with him, join his Discord. I am there and see what goes on, and he is pretty active.
I remember some comments the dev made about how hateful some fans were about Selene, early on in the TID story.He was still present during N&T, even after a bug revealed a ntr ending for Carol and Naomi (hardly considered ntr since you had to treat them bad or ignore them in order to get it AFAIR). There were some triggered fans, but Kinderfeld still logged on here. It was during the development of TID that something may have happened (fans getting more annoying and demanding than usual probably) and Kinderfeld decided to abandon F95.
I am not a paying Patreon member (I wrote the WT for the last couple games, that was my payment). I believe he has a free tier, which is what I am, and I get the dev updates, and can find the Discord link on it.I'm assuming his discord is for Patrons only, because I don't remember having seen a link to his channel anywhere neither here nor on Itch.io (the platform I use to follow his games).
If this is not the case, I would be very grateful if you can point me to where the public discord link for ILSProductions Server is posted. Thanks!