VN Ren'Py Waifu Academy [v0.12.5] [Irphaeus]

[SylvanWall]

Selective plagiarism through an anonymous aggregate tool is still plagiarism, especially when the parts that are recognizable and get the best results are copied word-for-word from the places the Generative Promt Tool stole it's materials from.

Chat GPT is better used for filling in repetitive lines of code, not for writing smut in any fashion.

 

[ZerosF25Zone]

Well the writing thing is not that hard considering that nowdays Chat gpt exists...It would make it a little easier to write the story and the dialogues, the " making gorgeous backgrounds and shaders with fully animated 3D sex scenes like these require time " will be up to the dev and how much content he creates for each scene...

I'm not even gonna get into it with you on chat GPT. Giving all the work to a robot and remove all the passion from the writing is just a awful idea. Let me be blunt, Rome wasn't built in a day. If the creativity requires another 5 years for this game to get wrapped up then I'll gladly wait. If it means we keep getting this type of quality. Quality requires time. As for the whole animation argument. you gotta understand at the end of the day the dev is human, So are his co workers. They're capable of feeling being burnt out. Might I ask, have you ever slaved over a computer trying to get stuff done? Scripting,Messing with animation skeletons to get the physics to shake and jiggle just right? Without the physics colliding or buggin the fuck out? Don't even get me started on the fact software can just decided to eat shit. I think you take forgranted how much hard work making a game actually is.

To you the player it seems like a 3 - 2 minute sex scene but that took probably took anywhere from 1 hour to a entire day to correct. A lot of people in this comment section has the tendacy to forget how hard developing a game is. You can't rush creativity. Period. I think its impressive someone can slave over a computer all day to get this stuff done. In my personal take. Unless you can write 3000 lines of dialogue and script, 11 new scenes with 250, 3D renders and 26 sex animations scenes in 2 - 3 months I'm not gonna take you seriously. That's a lot of work.

Again feel free to take inspiration from dear old bender here.

 

[ZerosF25Zone]

Selective plagiarism through an anonymous aggregate tool is still plagiarism, especially when the parts that are recognizable and get the best results are copied word-for-word from the places the Generative Promt Tool stole it's materials from.

Chat GPT is better used for filling in repetitive lines of code, not for writing smut in any fashion.

Exactly. This guy gets it.

 

[ZerosF25Zone]

I don't think you're comprehending what he's saying. Yes, you can use Chat GPT as a tool to do everything for you, but you can also use it to give you ideas. For example: instead of prompting it to write the scene out for you, and copy and pasting it as is, you can pick and choose the parts that you like and work for you, and use those parts to improve your own writing.

Yes you can use chat GPT for inspiration but it would debatably send the writing of the game in the toilet. I'd rather the dev come up with his ideas ON the toilet then from the toilet.

 

[Nixi~]

Yes you can use chat GBT for inspiration but it would debatably send the writing of the game in the toilet. I'd rather the dev come up with his ideas ON the toilet then from the toilet.

I don't know how you can draw that conclusion. A good idea is a good idea regardless from where it comes from.

 

[ZerosF25Zone]

I don't know how you can draw that conclusion. A good idea is a good idea regardless from where it comes from.

Its not really a good idea if you're relying on a robot to finish a piece of art.
You loose the originality that comes from telling a human story, It might result in more generic solutions to a story climax or even plainer or more predictable endings. Just flat out lazy.

 

[KiryuKazuma095]

I'm not even gonna get into it with you on chat GPT. Giving all the work to a robot and remove all the passion from the writing is just a awful idea. Let me be blunt, Rome wasn't built in a day. If the creativity requires another 5 years for this game to get wrapped up then I'll gladly wait. If it means we keep getting this type of quality. Quality requires time. As for the whole animation argument. you gotta understand at the end of the day the dev is human, So are his co workers. They're capable of feeling being burnt out. Might I ask, have you ever slaved over a computer trying to get stuff done? Scripting,Messing with animation skeletons to get the physics to shake and jiggle just right? Without the physics colliding or buggin the fuck out? Don't even get me started on the fact software can just decided to eat shit. I think you take forgranted how much hard work making a game actually is.

To you the player it seems like a 3 - 2 minute sex scene but that took probably took anywhere from 1 hour to a entire day to correct. A lot of people in this comment section has the tendacy to forget how hard developing a game is. You can't rush creativity. Period. I think its impressive someone can slave over a computer all day to get this stuff done. In my personal take. Unless you can write 3000 lines of dialogue and script, 11 new scenes with 250, 3D renders and 26 sex animations scenes in 2 - 3 months I'm not gonna take you seriously. That's a lot of work.

Again feel free to take inspiration from dear old bender here.
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I don't think you're comprehending what I am saying. Yes, you can't use Chat GPT as a tool to do everything for you, but you can also use it to give you ideas. For example: instead of prompting it to write the scene out for you, and copy and pasting it as is, you can pick and choose the parts that you like and work for you, and use those parts to improve your own writing.

 

[ZerosF25Zone]

I don't think you're comprehending what I am saying. Yes, you can't use Chat GPT as a tool to do everything for you, but you can also use it to give you ideas. For example: instead of prompting it to write the scene out for you, and copy and pasting it as is, you can pick and choose the parts that you like and work for you, and use those parts to improve your own writing.

You still loose the originality that comes from telling a human story and It still might result in a more generic and predictable outcome to a storys climax or even plainer or endings due to the fact of how CHAT GPT works.

I don't think you're comprehending what I am saying. Yes, you can't use Chat GPT as a tool to do everything for you, but you can also use it to give you ideas. For example: instead of prompting it to write the scene out for you, and copy and pasting it as is, you can pick and choose the parts that you like and work for you, and use those parts to improve your own writing.

I understood it perfectly and let me repeat myself.

While it's true that ChatGPT can offer ideas, there's a issue with relying on it for "improving your own writing" you're not considering. The process of writing is deeply personal, and a crucial part of developing your skills as a writer comes from engaging with the struggle and challenge of creating something new from complete scratch. When you’re picking and choosing parts of what an AI generates, you're not challenging yourself or your creativity my guy you're relying on something external to do the heavy lifting for you. As a result you’re bypassing the critical thinking and practice that come with forming your own unique voice and style as well as proper a ending. Writing is more than just putting words on a page its about crafting sentences, understanding pacing, exploring character development, and finding your own flow.

The most impactful writing comes from hours of hard work, rewriting, and refining, not from taking shortcuts. While ChatGPT can be helpful for brainstorming or generating ideas in the early stages, it should be seen as a supplement to the writing process, not a substitute for it. In the end, it's your original thoughts, creativity, and voice that will make your writing stand out not the parts you borrowed from an AI.

 

[Nixi~]

Its not really a good idea if you're relying on a robot to finish a piece of art.
You loose the originality that comes from telling a human story, It might result in more generic solutions to a story climax or even plainer or more predictable endings. Just flat out lazy.

So if you come up with an idea, and Chat GPT also comes up with that idea, is your idea now lesser? After all Chat GPT came up with it too, it musts mean it's generic, plain, predictable or even flat out lazy. I understand your concerns, but you're at the point of fearmongering simply because of your distaste for AI.

 

[IfuckKayane&Vania]

So if you come up with an idea, and Chat GPT also comes up with that idea, is your idea now lesser? After all Chat GPT came up with it too, it musts mean it's generic, plain, predictable or even flat out lazy. I understand your concerns, but you're at the point of fearmongering simply because of your distaste for AI.

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. Whether this story is written by a robot, AI, Chat GPT or by Stephen King or any other creature of flesh and blood ... I don't care. I want to read an exciting, sexy and spicy story and in case it is written by a protozoon or by someone with an IQ of 220 is of no importance to me. Give us a great, hot story with gorgeous girls and my worship will be yours.

 

[Hentai7891]

smh.... dev complaint about the pay again. after silent and no update expect pay again after a update only few cg scene. now only 65% done with 5months period. these game is cooked. I'm surprise the game is not abandon.

 

[dauner]

Maybe i can give some more insight on the use of AI in the game, i work on editing and the official walkthrough.

Storyboard:
The storyboard is done by Irphaeus and its very sexual and sometimes violent nature wont be able to be done by AI, at least by the models i know. Also the story is now well on its way into the last third and how would an AI finish that while making sense. So no use there.

Images:
Images are done by Irphaeus and now in addition by two part-timers, so there should be a speed up in image creation. To keep the spirit of the Honey Select engine AI won't be used in the middle of the games creation, especially again because of the sexual nature of the game. The only use of AI is to touch up some very few images, especially close ups, to look more "realistic". Maybe you can spot those in the later updates.

Music:
AI will probably be used in this field more heavily in the future, since not all free music is fitting and it's not an important part of the game.

Writing:
Feeding an AI with the storyboard could work, but then lots of the humor and sassiness would be lost. Which is in my opinion one of the biggest draws of the game. All of the text is written by a medical doctor in hsi free time, so all of his knowledge and 'foreign words" would be lost as well. I tried AI for editing but it just spat out nonsense most of the time, especiallybecause the writing is already embedded in the text code for the VN.

So music and some rare art is touched by AI, but all the other parts won't really work without a heavy time investment.

 

[AntonidasWoodmere85]

An AI cannot create art. It can only steal and repurpose or reassemble it. Those who use a generator and claim to be an ARTIST are just thieves and liars who lack the talent, creativity, and (most importantly) the willpower/desire to do it themselves pretending to be something they are not. They are to be pitied, not to be paid.

 

[armond]

An AI cannot create art. It can only steal and repurpose or reassemble it. Those who use a generator and claim to be an ARTIST are just thieves and liars who lack the talent, creativity, and (most importantly) the willpower/desire to do it themselves pretending to be something they are not. They are to be pitied, not to be paid.

Spoiler: I agree but....

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