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Yes Maki is loyal but she's far from the most level headed of the bunch. Let's see though because your point has merit. Who is "as loyal" if not more than Ms. Takamura?

Shelia - She's fiercely on your side, she's family and, as far as I can tell, no one has ever gotten the best of her
Elizabeth - She's bonded to you mind, body and soul. Timid nature is falling away. A contender.
Minami (Maybe too much of a dumb ass to be properly loyal)
Asuka (Maybe too volatile to be properly loyal)
Kaori (Remains to be seen but it does seem like she's head over heels in love with the MC)
Shelia though fucked the whole competition on HoneyBee , she is loyal sure but she is volatile as well,Kaori is someone that the MC can count on , at least to have his back same as Shelia and Takamura, Minami seems to be controled yet she is naive...and we say that on the night incident in the train, she was seconds away to be raped...In my opinion Asuka is craving for love, because she has a weird relationship with her mom....
 

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She could flip Tochiro, Katsuya and even Harada just by batting her eye lashes and arching her back. So, in the immortal words of Sally Field...

Harada serves the principal to much to turn, Tochiro is following Kenichi because he is afraid and because Kenichi is rich, same goes for Katsuya, he follows him because he is rich...He won't make Kenichi his enemy just for Elizabeth...
 
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Harada serves the principal to much to turn, Tochiro is following Kenichi because he is afraid and because Kenichi is rich, same goes for Katsuya, he follows him because he is rich...He won't make Kenichi his enemy just for Elizabeth...
Harada is quite pissed off at his treatment by the principal plus he almost fell over himself in pleasure at a few tiny compliments from Minami. Kenichi almost lost it on the beach and defied Kenichi's birthday party summons. Katsuya is about the money with Kenichi but that's just because he's bored. If he was tempted by a some real action he's leave rich boy sitting on his own thumb. :)
 
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Harada is quite pissed off at his treatment by the principal plus he almost fell over himself in pleasure at a few tiny compliments from Minami. Kenichi almost lost it on the beach and defied Kenichi's birthday party summons. Katsuya is about the money with Kenichi but that's just because he's bored. If he was tempted by a some real action he's leave rich boy sitting on his own thumb. :)
Sure Harada is not happy but he gives me the vibes of a simp type of guy so i wouldn't put it past him that if Principal become more seductive to him and more lovey dovey with him to pull him back in ...Tochiro tried to prove that he has balls and brain and that he is not just a yes men type of guy by ditching Kenichi's party...as for Katsuya sure he seems kind of a legit guy but so far he does every dirty job Kenichi orders him to...
 

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It honestly blows my mind how people can find more and more ridiculous ways to complain. Usually, when you do something for long enough, you get better at it. Not worse. Here's a hint for you... the more variables you have to track, the more work it takes. Get it now?
In general, you are right. But I don't think this applies to this game. For 95% of its length the number of tracked variables throughout the game is... ZERO. And recently were added... how many? Karma and... Is there something else that came up in last update? This has no impact at all in development complexity. Even less considering there have always been tracked variables within the scope of a single scene.

The user you were replying to was 100% correct. When you repeatedly work in something, you get better at it. And Irph hasn't gotten better. Not even at milking. He's been living for long off the charismatic characters and interesting and funny narrative he created in the earlier releases of this game. Everything before 0.8 I'd say. But it seems that the effect of that initial charm is starting to wear off finally.

Irph doesn't create sexier, funnier, more mysterious or in any other way more engaging scenes now than before. And, actually, he worsened some character designs for no reason, went way overboards with internal monologues of endless pop culture references that aren't particularly well placed nor paced, stalled the progression of the story with lots of random scenes because... tracking variables is hard fanservice, I hope. Though I doubt it because the general sentiment I could gather is people wants Mom, Kayane and Motoko not otaku, otaku and more otaku stealing the show like he ran out of other ways to maki things funny and at the same time ruining Otaku's character by getting players to hate him.

He's been so, so lazy for the past years. Hopefully he'll find some new motivation to put some work into this game now that he's losing patreons.
 

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In general, you are right. But I don't think this applies to this game. For 95% of its length the number of tracked variables throughout the game is... ZERO.
Every character, trait, scene, line of dialog, piece of lore and interaction with another character is a variable you have to track. Every new line you write has to support and seamlessly mesh with what you've already done. The OP specifically commented (and it's that comment to which I've been replying) about how project development time should be shorter rather than longer as you "get better". I've been a developer, dba and server admin for 25 years and his comment does not reflect my experience.

Additionally, and I've said this, my comments are not specific to this or any author. I was simply responding to his statement about skill vs long dev times. Peace man.
 
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You saw it by accident. Right. So what you play with your eyes closed, randomly click and hit buttons, open them up and then complain about what's on your screen? There are at least two button checks before that scene, plus you need two shots of the perfume AND there are at least 5 panels which show what's going to happen (calls made, people showing up).

So you knew what was going to happen before it happened but you just want to complain because you are a "vanilla boy" who was scarred by a missing gangbang tag but didn't have a problem with the bestiality, rape and incest tags. I have to admit... I don't think I give a fuck. :)
I said that I didn't play it if u can't read
And I didn't say anything about bestiality so it's stupid to mentioned it :unsure:
( hope my comment don't get delete again xD)
 
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Every character, trait, scene, line of dialog, piece of lore and interaction with another character is a variable you have to track. Every new line you write has to support and seamlessly mesh with what you've already done. The OP specifically commented (and it's that comment to which I've been replying) about how project development time should be shorter rather than longer as you "get better". I've been a developer, dba and server admin for 25 years and his comment does not reflect my experience.

Additionally, and I've said this, my comments are not specific to this or any author. I was simply responding to his statement about skill vs long dev times. Peace man.
This is not true.

First of all, you're mixing you're experience as a computer engineer with the creative process of a writer. Because what you're talking about: character traits, scenes, dialogues spoken, lore pieces, interactions... are all elements of the narrative and not of the different programming sides of developing a renpy game.

Nevertheless, those narrative elements could, indeed, be usefully tracked by the game's code. And that's what most game developers do, but not Irphaeus. And that's why I told you, he's not doing it, so it can't be an excuse to say developing is growing more complex. In any case, the great complexity of tracking such things comes down to setting a variable to a boolean value. That's it.

What can be difficult is to know and remember when, how many and in which way use all those variables. But that is a problem of the literary development. And yes, as you practice more and more you learn to handle those things more effectively.
 
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I hope these next updates focus on some other characters a little more. Seeing as it always takes a year anyway. We got characters we don't even have scenes with, but multiple with the same girls. Minami and Asuka (Minami more so) getting annoying to the point it feels like they always interrupt as scene we could've had with someone else.
 
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I hope for this next updates focus on some other characters a little more seeing as it always takes a year anyway. We got characters we don't even have scenes with, but multiple with the same girls. Minami and Asuka (Minami more so) getting annoying to the point it feels like they always interrupt as scene we could've had with someone else.
Well i am new to this game but if the game is more about the story focus character then i doubt that it will change, i mean that if dev wants to focus on specific characters around the MC i doubt that it would change to give screen time to other characters...Minami has a lot of scenes that is true...But i believe without seeing the script story that Minami has so much screen time because of the fact her father has involvement with MC's father story...
 

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Hello everyone!

Spring update is on his way, we are working everyday to bring it to you as fast as possible!
Our new recruit Max already does wonder with 3D rendering, some of you could notice his work in the last render pack reward.
The Spring update overall progress is around 65% , It's one of the biggest update we made, with new places, new characters, new outfits, many new choises, Karma option and the 'conclusion' of Tomoe arc etc...

Recruiting new people to work with me accelerate Update release, increase quality and content, wich is pros for you :p
However it has a financially cost for me, and unfortunatly we are bleeding the 3$ pledge to "Free members" a lot since Patreon came with that...
The 3$ per month support was essential for us! I will be honest we lost almost half of the incomes, and it hurt us badly... While our motivation remains intact, if the Free members bleeding isn't reversed, it will become very difficult for us to keep up with great content.

So Im making this poll to understand and know what would make Free members to support us.
I need your honest answer (please only Free members should vote.)
I welcome any advice in the comment section.
Thank you!

Irphaeus.

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Where is the another pack reward??? Give it to mee
 
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Well i am new to this game but if the game is more about the story focus character then i doubt that it will change, i mean that if dev wants to focus on specific characters around the MC i doubt that it would change to give screen time to other characters...Minami has a lot of scenes that is true...But i believe without seeing the script story that Minami has so much screen time because of the fact her father has involvement with MC's father story...
I would say keep playing, I won't spoil it, but I would not give the dev the benefit of the doubt ever tbh. A greater dev would be finished by now, and that's just a fact. I can't say for sure the thought process, but Minami hasn't helped move the story along for a while. If anyone would, Kayane of all people would. Hell if we dated her we'd probably be finished by now, but you'll see in a decade I guess when this game still probably isn't finished lol.
 
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I would add Rikuna, too
Well.. I thought about what you said and I'd only really remembered Art Class where she was "under the influence". However (and I forgot about this) in the shower scene after Yoko stole my cloths she is NOT under the influence and is simply a slave to the dilznik. One of the panels was so nice I had to include it for fun. I think I'd enjoy having her on my team :)

Rikuna - waifu academy - ride.jpg
 
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I would say keep playing, I won't spoil it, but I would not give the dev the benefit of the doubt ever tbh. A greater dev would be finished by now, and that's just a fact. I can't say for sure the thought process, but Minami hasn't helped move the story along for a while. If anyone would, Kayane of all people would. Hell if we dated her we'd probably be finished by now, but you'll see in a decade I guess when this game still probably isn't finished lol.
Well Kayane is a mystery character for me, when on one hand i like how she looks and she is funny and smart on the other hand she has dark secret and hidden agentas , she could easily be a good ally to MC but when she goes and becomes the pet of Kenichi i would not want anything to do with her...She even let MC blue balled...Yoko on the other hand is much worse but still she won't progress the story much... MC needs to make Catherine Inori's mom a close ally to gather info from her cuck husband about his father and to figure out who that mystery girl was with Anders and Shirohime...
 

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Well.. I thought about what you said and I'd only really remembered Art Class where she was "under the influence". However (and I forgot about this) in the shower scene after Yoko stole my cloths she is NOT under the influence and is simply a slave to the dilznik. One of the panels was so nice I had to include it for fun. I think I'd enjoy having her on my team :)

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Wow didn't know sex with Rikuna is something we can do...I am on my second playthrough and recently had seen Kayane naked and have some foreplay...
 
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