Vakul

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Those scenes where removed when he changed her character to an 18 old goth chick since the "she is aged up through a potion" was to close to loli for patreon.

You need version 0.18 and earlier to have those scenes
Scenes was removed due to someone's absence of balls. There is a story about TakeTwo copyright claim on some GTA ViceCity mod with lawyers manage to close modders youtube channel, telegram channel and apparently even some local social network channel. Next day devs come out and said "you know, our channels was closed, so we have no idea who released new version of mod. Some unknown people apparently." That is what I'd call "having a balls". And Take2dicks-in-the-mouth lawyers is not a joke, they almost as crazy as those nintendo shitsuckers.
Patreon changed rules? ok, no "dangerous content" on patreon. Only in "unofficial patch" created by some "unknown people from thirdparty pirate websites". But it requires actual courage and imagination.
 

shmurfer

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Scenes was removed due to someone's absence of balls. There is a story about TakeTwo copyright claim on some GTA ViceCity mod with lawyers manage to close modders youtube channel, telegram channel and apparently even some local social network channel. Next day devs come out and said "you know, our channels was closed, so we have no idea who released new version of mod. Some unknown people apparently." That is what I'd call "having a balls". And Take2dicks-in-the-mouth lawyers is not a joke, they almost as crazy as those nintendo shitsuckers.
Patreon changed rules? ok, no "dangerous content" on patreon. Only in "unofficial patch" created by some "unknown people from thirdparty pirate websites". But it requires actual courage and imagination.
Lot of talk when it's not your livelihood at risk.
 

Vakul

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A youtube channel ain't their livelihood, neither is the equivalent of a discord.
Patreon is.
Yeah, common mistake, really.
The thing is - NO, their income is not FROM Patreon, but VIA Patreon.
Their source of income is their community.
I can't see patron-only pages anymore, so I can't see if patrons was ok with that character twist. And I don't remember how much of a problem that was for them. But there is a huge difference between what Patreon wants and what patrons wants.
 

pastas2

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Yeah, common mistake, really.
The thing is - NO, their income is not FROM Patreon, but VIA Patreon.
Their source of income is their community.
I can't see patron-only pages anymore, so I can't see if patrons was ok with that character twist. And I don't remember how much of a problem that was for them. But there is a huge difference between what Patreon wants and what patrons wants.
Considering how long ago that change was and current patron support and the fact that patrons voted for the goth look? Patrons got what they wanted or were ok with the change.

Tho other then the goth look what other options were for Lilian?
 
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shmurfer

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Yeah, common mistake, really.
The thing is - NO, their income is not FROM Patreon, but VIA Patreon.
Their source of income is their community.
I can't see patron-only pages anymore, so I can't see if patrons was ok with that character twist. And I don't remember how much of a problem that was for them. But there is a huge difference between what Patreon wants and what patrons wants.
If they have a subscribestar ready they could risk the jump, otherwise no trying to satisfy the community will just get the patreon and all of the money deleted. And realistically there's going to be a bunch of dead accounts they'd lose in the transition.

Subscribestar is notorious for not verifying accounts with no feedback for years.
 

Vakul

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Considering how long ago that change was and current patron support and the fact that patrons voted for the goth look? Patrons got what they wanted or were ok with the change.

Tho other then the goth look what other options were for Lilian?
I don't remember that already. Maybe someone with active membership can look for that.

If they have a subscribestar ready they could risk the jump, otherwise no trying to satisfy the community will just get the patreon and all of the money deleted. And realistically there's going to be a bunch of dead accounts they'd lose in the transition.
Yeah, I agree, there is a risk and there should be a balance between doing what community wants and keepeng the original project original vision.
Subscribestar is notorious for not verifying accounts with no feedback for years.
And THAT looks like some crucial info. I've heard things like that from creators, but AFAIK, that is common thing for Subs, and does not depend on the quality of the project or its contents
 

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U-huh. And those pals risked just a little more than their "livelihood". When there is will, there is possibility. When there is enough imagination, there is a way. Is there any will?
Have you considered, that there isn't a will? Patreon pressured, and they changed the underage girl to a goth girl. Most people love goth girls. Then why do so much to keep the original girl in? To appease the minority that, by principle, cannot openly demand what they like?
 

Vakul

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Considering how long ago that change was and current patron support and the fact that patrons voted for the goth look? Patrons got what they wanted or were ok with the change.

Tho other then the goth look what other options were for Lilian?
I don't remember that already. Maybe someone with active membership can look for that, but I stopped
Have you considered, that there isn't a will? Patreon pressured, and they changed the underage girl to a goth girl. Most people love goth girls. Then why do so much to keep the original girl in? To appease the minority that, by principle, cannot openly demand what they like?
I dunno if most people like goth or not, but if partons was ok about that change, then it's ok as long as it doesn't ruin dev's vision of that character.
 
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