RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.1] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

If she catches you with heather that starts her ntr path. She doesn't like you sleeping with her mom but she's more ok with it than you sleeping with heather since she's a stranger. She'll stop being mad at you sure but she also stops being faithful to you

It's needed to complete the NTR path, but her seeing the MC and Heather doesn't send her to Aidalin unless you tell her it's okay.

It's like after the threesome with Bjorn and Claire, Claire asks you about it. You have three choices. 1. Never again. 2. Only in a threesome with the MC. 3. She is free to fuck him on her own.

I don't mind NTR, but it does nothing for me. I usually don't make a point of making Mira catching the MC and Heather, but I have done it. After the talk, you follow have the decision to let her fuck Aidalin or not.

Even the Web Walkthrough says " (which mean she will only do it herself if you allow her to)". It's The Monastery section, Step 21.

So nah, if you want to do that to her, you can totally make her catch you and Heather, and be her only one.

 

[storm1051787]

NTR is ON. As you say, Mira don't catch you if NTR is OFF.

Mira don't need Corruption to start the NTR path with Aidalin in the Monastery.

Mira need Corruption if you want to she her get turned on when she see the MC with Heather instead of getting pissed and start something with Aidalin after you reach the Monastery.

This is in case Mira was only with the MC until then and you want to she her with Aidalin too from that point on.

As you say, this can't happen by accident, unless you didn't read the Walkthrough.

When did I say anything about anything happening by accident? The claim is that Mira won't get pissed if she sees you with heather at the monastery. That's not true, she will get pissed and it will trigger her ntr same with syfa. You misread the conversation. She's accepted you sleeping with her family but doesn't extend that to other women.

 

[storm1051787]

It's needed to complete the NTR path, but her seeing the MC and Heather doesn't send her to Aidalin unless you tell her it's okay.

It's like after the threesome with Bjorn and Claire, Claire asks you about it. You have three choices. 1. Never again. 2. Only in a threesome with the MC. 3. She is free to fuck him on her own.

I don't mind NTR, but it does nothing for me. I usually don't make a point of making Mira catching the MC and Heather, but I have done it. After the talk, you follow have the decision to let her fuck Aidalin or not.

Even the Web Walkthrough says " (which mean she will only do it herself if you allow her to)". It's The Monastery section, Step 21.

So nah, if you want to do that to her, you can totally make her catch you and Heather, and be her only one.

Mira automatically starts the ntr path if she catches you at the monestary with heather unless you've corrupted her enough. If she doesn't have high corruption there is no option to talk her down at all and she autmatically starts the ntr path. The walkthrough says if you allow her because you can easily hide heather from her.

 

[Apartment817]

Ehm, i don't know if you mean it or if you're just joking. But, sorry to tell you this, but you can fuck/make love with Mira without sleep/fuck Gwen.

I have never not allied with Isha, I think the game would be hella annoying and difficult to get through all the things needed to finish the monastery. Let alone all the things Soul Steal is needed for in other areas of the game.

But even if you can get to the current end of content without ever fucking Gwen, you sure can't do it without fucking all sorts of woman behind Mira's back.

 

[Apartment817]

Mira automatically starts the ntr path if she catches you at the monestary with heather unless you've corrupted her enough. If she doesn't have high corruption there is no option to talk her down at all and she autmatically starts the ntr path. The walkthrough says if you allow her because you can easily hide heather from her.

Ah, that's your problem then. First thing I do in the Monastery is forward time to the new uniforms, and swap out that plug. By the time we get back Arrenfield and have that discussion, she has swallowed five loads with the fake plug.

 

[Apartment817]

Having sex with Gwen is in no way a precursor to have sex with Mira.
While there's plenty of content/love interests locked behind other women, Mira isn't dependent on any other and you can even lose your virginity to her if you so wish.

You, my good man, are the MVP. I hate how the quiver interaction flew under my radar. Thank you.

I said Advance her quest, as in get her in the MC's bed, in the MC's home. I didn't say she couldn't take the MC's virginity, I said you can't play this game and be "faithful" to her.

 

[storm1051787]

Ah, that's your problem then. First thing I do in the Monastery is forward time to the new uniforms, and swap out that plug. By the time we get back Arrenfield and have that discussion, she has swallowed five loads with the fake plug.

I play ntr off so I don't see it at all. I'm just telling you that you misunderstood the walkthrough. Mira is pissed if you fuck either heather or syfa and it starts the ntr. If you haven't corrupted Mira she will never catch you with heather in the first place if you have ntr turned off.

I'm just saying it's not at all true that she's ok with you sleeping with heather. She's only really ok with you sleeping with Emily.

 

[Apartment817]

I play ntr off so I don't see it at all. I'm just telling you that you misunderstood the walkthrough. Mira is pissed if you fuck either heather or syfa and it starts the ntr. If you haven't corrupted Mira she will never catch you with heather in the first place if you have ntr turned off.

I'm just saying it's not at all true that she's ok with you sleeping with heather. She's only really ok with you sleeping with Emily.

Have you had the discussion with her after making her catch the MC with Heather? I have, she wasn't pissed, she was turned on by it. She fucked the MC right after it. Could I have made choices that would have made her pissed, I guess so, I haven't ever done that. So it's 100% true that she is totally cool with the MC being a slut.

 

[Kurblabla]

I have trouble when enter Tribe management. Black screen, nothing you can do, except closing the game.
I used cheatbook, probably has something to do with that. Any way to overcome this?

 

[Mxiio]

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I have trouble when enter Tribe management. Black screen, nothing you can do, except closing the game.
I used cheatbook, probably has something to do with that. Any way to overcome this?

What version is this? Nevermind, it's in the title.
You're a few hotfixes behind. Update and try again.

 

[exazubi]

Mira start a relationship with Aidalin only if... ofc you have NTR on and:
21 Talk to Mira when she's sitting on her bed. There are now 5 different scenarios:
1.You completed Mira's love quest before, didn't fuck Syfa infront of her, Didn't tell Emily you want a relationship – Everything is fine, You'll have fun with her
2.Didn't complete Mira's love quest, didn't fuck Syfa infront of her, Didn't tell Emily you want a relationship – Everything is fine, you can now do the love quest with changed dialogue bits
3.Broke up with Mira – She will be heartbroken, Tell her you didn't mean it and everything is back to normal.. Or wait for a few days, she will now start dating Aidalin. If you tell her you want her back after they kissed she will tell you that she's no longer sure if she wants you back and will keep the thing with Aidalin going
4.Told Emily you want a relationship and fucked Syfa infront of Mira – She will tell you that her believe in you is shaken and she will be ok with it but also now seek out other men (Relationship with Aidalin open)
5.Told Emily you want a relationship, Didn't fuck Syfa infront: Mira will accept that you're in a relationship with her and her mother

I do not understand the heather because in the guide till now i never see anything between Heather and Mira.

Much easier:

1. You can play all the routes possible with Mira.
2. You don't want her to fuck Aidalin: don't fuck Syfa at the ceremony.
3. You want her to fuck him? Fuck Syfa at the ceremony.

That's all.

If you really play through all the possible decisions, there are significantly more than just five scenarios. However, the only differences are the dialogues and the steps that need to be taken to progress in each relationship.

 

[chainsaw7777]

Mira will never see you with heahter unless you turn ntr on. There is no point oof the catching mc with heather except to start mira's ntr path. And Mira doesn't need any corruption for it

about heather

ntr only starts if she catches you with heather if she has lower than 7 corrupt points. to corrupt her you must not be on syfas path. you can do it training the plug at home up to one point and can by sleepover have a bj where she is not wearing the plug. so you can also corrupt her on church path. if she has 7 corrupt points or more and she catches you with heather she is okay with it. by returning home she will speak with you about it and offers you an open relationship by dating also aidalin and are on sharing path. this you can easily prevent if you don`t allow her that and nothing further will happen.

similar to kate/rick after wagon building where you can allow them to have a relationship, so sharing path because you are consent about it.

 

[Apartment817]

about heather

ntr only starts if she catches you with heather if she has lower than 7 corrupt points. to corrupt her you must not be on syfas path. you can do it training the plug at home up to one point and can by sleepover have a bj where she is not wearing the plug. so you can also corrupt her on church path. if she has 7 corrupt points or more and she catches you with heather she is okay with it. by returning home she will speak with you about it and offers you an open relationship by dating also aidalin and are on sharing path. this you can easily prevent if you don`t allow her that and nothing further will happen.

similar to kate/rick after wagon building where you can allow them to have a relationship, so sharing path because you are consent about it.

You can corrupt Mira on Syfa's path. At the monastery after the acolytes get new robes, check in with Syfa in the bedroom, she will give fake plugs. Wait outside Mira's room until she is masturbating, just enter, switch out her plug. Now with or without the plug she is corruptible.

It might by corrupt 7, but I was thinking it was 5.

 

[Zolfried]

think i found a bug. in Calan's Rest, i snuck in and saved Katherin, then the group argues if you should finish your business there or help katherin get out 1st, and then come back again to finish it later.. i chose the latter option. now ive returned and killed Zorad. but the game wont let me leave because i need to go pick up katherin.. MC says "I'm not done here..." when i try to leave.. even though i AM done..

 

[Apartment817]

Unfortunately there are still bugs that I can't sort out myself... I'm currently struggling with a perma-pregnant Kate blocking my progress
It has now been 50 days or more since she should have given birth and I cannot progress with anything since all I have left is building the wagon with Rick (which he won't do saying we should wait while Kate is preggers), Ariana corruption which needs Kate to be not-pregnant as well, Carmen and the scenes from the Old Boar Inn. I do have the entire Penny Quest left as well, but I would've preferred leaving that for when an update comes along that makes her able to break even without help once everything is built up on her farm.


If anyone here can save my playthrough, I'll buy you a coffee.

I will continue to work on it, (I really like this game, you gave me like a bonus quest in it), and I am not sure why it would hold up Kate giving birth, but I did find something that will keep you from advancing the Kirlic quest. You need Ophilia to turn into Pia.

I will see if I can get Kate to pop, it might be Pia (guessing you don't know who Pia is, )related, it might not be.

 

[Apartment817]

Unfortunately there are still bugs that I can't sort out myself... I'm currently struggling with a perma-pregnant Kate blocking my progress
It has now been 50 days or more since she should have given birth and I cannot progress with anything since all I have left is building the wagon with Rick (which he won't do saying we should wait while Kate is preggers), Ariana corruption which needs Kate to be not-pregnant as well, Carmen and the scenes from the Old Boar Inn. I do have the entire Penny Quest left as well, but I would've preferred leaving that for when an update comes along that makes her able to break even without help once everything is built up on her farm.


If anyone here can save my playthrough, I'll buy you a coffee.

I am annoyed that I couldn't figure out what was keeping her from giving birth. After I finished Ophilia's current content, I then jumped ahead 90 days just make sure it was time or anything related to that. Ran around having every discussion I could think of that might be connected. Ultimately I just went into the switches via RpgMakerSaveEdit, clicked off "Kate Belly" and clicked on "Kate Baby". I am not completely confident that it fixes all issues, not knowing how that effects the Kate nursing the baby for a week, or the discussion about keeping the child.

But, I edited those switches, loaded the save. Kate was there talking to Rick without a belly. I skipped ahead to midnight, talked to her and she said that the baby needed her right now. Which is what she should say. I went and slept at the MC's house. Walked out to Rick's morning spot. Then saved. Save attached.

I then talked to Rick and we built the next stage of the cart. Which told me that it is probably fixed. To save yourself in-game time, on Thursday night after Ophilia goes to bed lockpick into her room and talk to her. (If you talk to her Thursday day, she will tell you to come see her at night. Don't rush the sex, ask her, then fuck her.)

Side note, that made me chuckle. After I first loaded your save I tried troubleshooting by looking in the relationship status to see that things were probably advanced. I noticed "lost virginity to M---". I was like "who the heck is M---???" What weird story path have I missed. Once I realized it was you, I felt dumb but thought it was funny.

*** I realized I may have muddied the waters, this save is just the day after yours. The switches are edited, no relationships are advanced. Wait for Rick to walk up to the dock, talk to him.

 

[Mxiio]

I am annoyed that I couldn't figure out what was keeping her from giving birth. After I finished Ophilia's current content, I then jumped ahead 90 days just make sure it was time or anything related to that. Ran around having every discussion I could think of that might be connected. Ultimately I just went into the switches via RpgMakerSaveEdit, clicked off "Kate Belly" and clicked on "Kate Baby". I am not completely confident that it fixes all issues, not knowing how that effects the Kate nursing the baby for a week, or the discussion about keeping the child.

But, I edited those switches, loaded the save. Kate was there talking to Rick without a belly. I skipped ahead to midnight, talked to her and she said that the baby needed her right now. Which is what she should say. I went and slept at the MC's house. Walked out to Rick's morning spot. Then saved. Save attached.

I then talked to Rick and we built the next stage of the cart. Which told me that it is probably fixed. To save yourself in-game time, on Thursday night after Ophilia goes to bed lockpick into her room and talk to her. (If you talk to her Thursday day, she will tell you to come see her at night. Don't rush the sex, ask her, then fuck her.)

Side note, that made me chuckle. After I first loaded your save I tried troubleshooting by looking in the relationship status to see that things were probably advanced. I noticed "lost virginity to M---". I was like "who the heck is M---???" What weird story path have I missed. Once I realized it was you, I felt dumb but thought it was funny.

*** I realized I may have muddied the waters, this save is just the day after yours. The switches are edited, no relationships are advanced. Wait for Rick to walk up to the dock, talk to him.

The "should we keep the baby"-talk won't happen when done this way and the baby name will be set as "Kate Child 1". She will nurse it though, but I'm not sure where it ends up by default. I've had 2 other kind users send me similarly edited save files and a 3rd who removed her pregnant state. A whole slew of other issues arise from doing so. While it seems like you can progress, the conversation to head to the Old Boar Inn never happens and Kate will never be pregnant again (unless RNGeesus really hates me as I tried 20 times with 100 Lust). I'll keep copies of my original save in hopes that Chyos releases a hotfix some day that includes sorting pregnancies as it seems they generally do not play well with other quests.

 

[Smashthatazz]

I can't equip Ebonite armor set for Tia and Lyvia. They are level 40 and 41.
I thought that they can equip any kinds of armor without putting any talent points to Armor proficiency. Any advice?

 

[Apartment817]

The "should we keep the baby"-talk won't happen when done this way and the baby name will be set as "Kate Child 1". She will nurse it though, but I'm not sure where it ends up by default. I've had 2 other kind users send me similarly edited save files and a 3rd who removed her pregnant state. A whole slew of other issues arise from doing so. While it seems like you can progress, the conversation to head to the Old Boar Inn never happens and Kate will never be pregnant again (unless RNGeesus really hates me as I tried 20 times with 100 Lust). I'll keep copies of my original save in hopes that Chyos releases a hotfix some day that includes sorting pregnancies as it seems they generally do not play well with other quests.

Without Ophilia turned to Pia, you won't have the conversation to go to the Old Boar, because without a bar maid, Kate is unable to leave, you need Pia to be able to cover for her.

 

[Mxiio]

I can't equip Ebonite armor set for Tia and Lyvia. They are level 40 and 41.
I thought that they can equip any kinds of armor without putting any talent points to Armor proficiency. Any advice?

They need 14 or 15 points in Armor Proficiency in order to wear armors in the (Heavy) category if I recall correctly.