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Here's the thing , your position is absolutely correct - from a game dev's frame of reference. Nearly everyone on this forum is not a game developer or a C# programmer, however. All a player/consumer sees is the end product. If 85% of Ren'py games offer the player a satisfactory experience across a broad range of games/developers, Ren'py is looked upon as a good engine. When game after game produced by dev after dev on Unity is a complete clusterfuck, the average player is going to be going in with low expectations or outright dread.
This isn't like a couple/few years ago, where guys like Dark Silver and the SU dude knew what they were doing. I'd say a solid 60%+ of new games coming out on Unity today are utilizing some form VN drag and drop framework so they don't have to know how to code, which lends to a horribly optimized end product and explains at least part of why Unity is seen as a notorious resource pig. Ren'py doesn't offer such a framework to potential devs and optimization isn't much of a concern with its thin implementation.
Anyway, you are right. But so are they. They could just blame the developer, but where's the benefit for them in that?
- Jul 21, 2017
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Hell naaw ... they most probably just some little virgins with pencils in they pants who never got to tap some ass or got dumped shortly after and talk thrash. You don't like a character skip it homeboy ... the dev is not obliged to change it just because you don't like it 'cause a MILF look "too young for her age to have 20y old kids" how the hell is she supposed to look, a nice thick wrinkled ass "real" granny, my kinda turn on
Do u, by any chance, happen to know Madonna (she's 60y old... ok she's a superstar but age is still age), J.Lo, Kim K., Larsa Pippen (she 45, four kids) so on and so forth. And even your averege woman in her 40's - 50's can still look hot and sexy if she's taking care of herself, times have changed bois shit is real.
So kids, ''MILF looks like she's in her 20's, too young to have children, infinite LOLz" fapboys, botomline is you don't like a certain character, skip it. Nobody is forcing you to see it's development or it's sex scenes. I don't like petite boobless and assless girls because it got nothing fancy, nothing spicy to them, hell you see them in reality wherever you go. What you don't see everywhere is thick, big boobed curvy women or MILFs ready to bang ... but that's just my opinion and I respect other people's opinion who like them petite ladies. Or as @Rythan25 pointed out "Lastly this is fantasy !!! We don't want to see the crappy"average" we want to see the "exceptional"! " well said brother.
Devs with hot young looking MILF's in their games should start putting in the description shit like "It's just a game and it should be trated as such, wankers. Please oblige or go cry to yo' mommies"
too much drama for a simple fiction.
- Oct 10, 2017
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Have you ever seen a UNITY game on android? If yes please do tell because the regular porters needs to know how. Otherwise, don't get your hopes up.
Sweet lewdlab is back
I'll leave it a few updates until I start playing it, nothing worse that a great looking game with little content.
I'll leave it a few updates until I start playing it, nothing worse that a great looking game with little content.
Is this really spupposed to happen? Somehow it just switched to main menu in the middle of a scene and now i got stuck navigation and the main menu, i can't save from here either, so basically lost all progress there o_o
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Cause it's putting off players on playing other games in unity that may not have the same limitation or even remotely close experience to what they had in another unity made game. That's the sad part of it, fortunately its just a minority, most people give it a try and get positively surprised anyway
I get you though, i mean i have played ren'py games that were horrible, and then you wonder if they just changed things for the worse, just for the sake of changing it, or what the hell happened.
- Jul 19, 2017
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leave the graphical configuration as low as you can. That's how I solved it.
Yeah thats when it happened, but is it really supposed to crash like this? I wasn't even able to save at the last point?
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Game uses waaay too much cpu for just a static image on the screen. Mayb the dev should've sticked to renpy
- Feb 12, 2018
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I ran the game in ultra and everything worked just fine. I'm pretty sure that drop down has no effect on the game at all.
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maybe it is better to tell what your using this will be able to identify why some have trouble playing this game i have my setting on high on using windows 10. screen resolution is max this laptop can take. 1366 x 768 and the game is running fine.
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I don't blame the engine, I blame the devs, it just seems as if there are way more playable ren'py games around than Unity.
Apart from yours and one or two others I can't really think of any where I found the gameplay and UI satisfying, there are definitely way more ren'py games where I could say that.
I doubt that there are thousands of shit ren'py games around, if you said a few hundreds I might agree.
As for the tiny fraction, I think that's not based on any empirical evidence, it's basically just your interpretation of what you see.
You mention yourself that only a small group of people who use these boards to download do actually post here, which going from statistical evidence means that every poster stands for so and so many who don't post, therefore if a significant amount of posters in any thread shares an opinion, chances are high that it is also shared by a significant group of the lurkers.
You are kind of working the Bioware defense here, when the overwhelming number of fan reviews and ratings about ME3 and its ending was horrible, wherever you looked, the comments in every article about it, Bioware's own boards, anywhere.
And Bioware also claimed that since only a small group of people actually posts comments, reviews or uses the boards, that only the small number who actually posted had a problem with the game's endings.
I found that pretty laughable back then and don't think it is very convincing now.
The models in this game are amazing. I've been trying to find models with detail like this on DAZ, and there is nothing with that kind of detail that also includes great skins. I'm guessing that the models and skin are very customized.
Any idea where to find skins and models this detailed?
Any idea where to find skins and models this detailed?
Yeah but then again this is due to the fact that it is indeed more work to make a game in unity, but I would argue that the end result can be really nice if it's done right and its given enough time. Not saying that you blame the engine but some people for sure do without knowing what it is they blame. Lack of features has nothing to do with unity itself, its just the implementation.
A lot of the developers here are artists working solo on their games. A handful of people are artists with developer background. And then there are those that colab and have a small team to do the game.
Unity is still not that common for visual novels, but i was surprised over how many different vn assets there are in the store. There's a lot. Probably because the most basic visual novels are really easy to make.
When it comes to this specific game, nothing is completely screwed by any means, but maybe its time he gets a proper programmer with all that funding he gets, either for ren'py or for unity, doesn't matter. it shouldnt matter to the player what engine it is on as long as the features you need are there.
For example with ren'py you never know what to expect with some things, save compatibility between updates? nope, not all games do that. Script errors? not all games. This is more up to the developer
You kinda do expect that the core ren'py features work, like saving, loading, the basic skip and dialogue navigation
Even for my own project, I got miles to go before I am happy, but it is for sure a milestone to be up to speed with most engines out there. That was a lot of hard work
- Feb 20, 2018
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My one biggest problem with Unity games, and I too have heard a ton of hate for Unity in the last couple of months... Not too RPGM levels yet, but its the 2nd most hated of the big 3 engines people prefer. (Ren'py, Unity, RPGM) The others are basically non factors that just get hate in general or are super niche like Java, Flash Player, HTML, and Tyrano....
Anyway back to the original point, my main problem with Unity games is how hard they are for modders to "fix"... Here are some examples of good games that people are starting to turn on, or dont get as much love due to Unity...
1. Lucky Mark - Super Alex uses 1080p images for his game or some crap, because despite the low amount of progress and sex scenes in this game by v.12 its already at a whopping 8GB, people are pissed having to download a game this size every month... The dev's fault sure, but due to it being Unity non of the usual crowd can compress it (bossaplesauce, crust, kasey, pepe le pew).
2. School, Love and Cousins (Friends) - This game was in Tyrano or in Game Maker before, and while it had its own bugs and limitations once it switched over to Unity it made it super hard for people to switch it back to its "incestual glory"... so people dont try it till the modder (I believe redknight) comes out with a patch for it, and he has commented many times that it usually takes him a month before he can make it due to Unity's code...
There are plenty more, but these are the two biggest examples of why Unity sucks... no compression, and no patches due to Unity's hard coding... if those two games were Ren-py they'd be seeing a compressed version within 24 hours of release, and a patch (incest or otherwise) in 2-3 days tops !
I have trust in Lewdlab to deliver a good project, i just hope he doesnt fall into one of those two pitfalls... after all DoD was pretty meaty before compression...
Anyway back to the original point, my main problem with Unity games is how hard they are for modders to "fix"... Here are some examples of good games that people are starting to turn on, or dont get as much love due to Unity...
1. Lucky Mark - Super Alex uses 1080p images for his game or some crap, because despite the low amount of progress and sex scenes in this game by v.12 its already at a whopping 8GB, people are pissed having to download a game this size every month... The dev's fault sure, but due to it being Unity non of the usual crowd can compress it (bossaplesauce, crust, kasey, pepe le pew).
2. School, Love and Cousins (Friends) - This game was in Tyrano or in Game Maker before, and while it had its own bugs and limitations once it switched over to Unity it made it super hard for people to switch it back to its "incestual glory"... so people dont try it till the modder (I believe redknight) comes out with a patch for it, and he has commented many times that it usually takes him a month before he can make it due to Unity's code...
There are plenty more, but these are the two biggest examples of why Unity sucks... no compression, and no patches due to Unity's hard coding... if those two games were Ren-py they'd be seeing a compressed version within 24 hours of release, and a patch (incest or otherwise) in 2-3 days tops !
I have trust in Lewdlab to deliver a good project, i just hope he doesnt fall into one of those two pitfalls... after all DoD was pretty meaty before compression...