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A bit of a topic shift, but this does also bring up something else I had been thinking about recently.

Powerful mortals like Diana and Rin mostly have innate potential (such as from a bloodline) that they can enhance and train, much like an Olympic athlete or master martial artist has genetic potential that is made use of with training and experience. The power is innately "theirs" but they will eventually hit limits to their power they cannot surpass because the "limits" are hard, if not impossible, to shift.

However, it's been stated or implied several times that MC and gods/celestial entities are a bit different. They do have some innate powers themselves, such as MC being stronger, faster, more durable, and having a wind affinity. But a lot of their power potential appears to come from souls and from the worship/devotion of their followers. We've seen several times where celestials actually get weaker when they lose followers, for example.

MC has had big power boosts from absorbing powers and recently from artifacts, but we haven't directly seen anything like him growing due to worship. I suspect that part of this island arc is going to be related to that though. It's pretty obvious he's going to get some power boost and probably celestial knowledge from the goddess temples and whatnot, but it would not surprise me if at the end of this arc after he likely clears all the temples, restores magic to the island, and people learn he's Nephilim, some of the island inhabitants start to informally (or maybe even formally) worship and revere him, even if just in secret.

It wouldn't surprise me if a combination of absorbing a few more powers and starting to gain "followers" is what triggers the Ascension that's been mentioned as a future major power boost and potentially starts moving him from "high tier mortal" to "minor god".
That's a solid point. Makes sense that the island not only gives him new powers, but also gains him followers who hold him in reverance. Especially if he can unite the tribes.
Hadn't considered this boosting his power, though. Definitely makes sense if that's where this is leading.
 
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That's a solid point. Makes sense that the island not only gives him new powers, but also gains him followers who hold him in reverance. Especially if he can unite the tribes.
Hadn't considered this boosting his power, though. Definitely makes sense if that's where this is leading.
I can pretty much already picture a scene where MC hears a prayer in his head for the first time from one of his followers and is shocked about it.

Long-term (like end-game epilogue), I fully expect MC to become a literal god akin to Maia, who was essentially originally promised to be the god equivalent of his wife based on a few bits of dialogue.
 
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I can pretty much already picture a scene where MC hears a prayer in his head for the first time from one of his first followers and is shocked about it.

Long-term (like end-game epilogue), I fully expect MC to become a literal god akin to Maia, who was essentially originally promised to be the god equivalent of his wife based on a few bits of dialogue.
Was it Gaia who we met in the most recent temple? Think it was.
She is one of those you mentioned, where her power is lower now, due to losing followers.
If MC can be seen by the islanders as having met & talked to her, it already sets him on a higher tier than them.
Reverance from them really doesn't seem like it would be far behind.

Your post has made me quite excited for where this goes!
 
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Was it Gaia who we met in the most recent temple? Think it was.
She is one of those you mentioned, where her power is lower now, due to losing followers.
If MC can be seen by the islanders as having met & talked to her, it already sets him on a higher tier than them.
Reverance from them really doesn't seem like it would be far behind.

Your post has made me quite excited for where this goes!
Yep, the conversation with Gaia was a big part of what had me thinking about it more recently.
 
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Im genuinely curious about what other times did the mc struggle in a fight that I cant remember though.
The only time I can think of, is in the early game with the bandits where we meet Eliza. At least up until the MC decided that his face had been licked for long enough.
 

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Im genuinely curious about what other times did the mc struggle in a fight that I cant remember though.
The only time I can think of, is in the early game with the bandits where we meet Eliza. At least up until the MC decided that his face had been licked for long enough.
Wasn't the fight with the assassin at the lake kind of close too? It's been a while, so I can't remember specifics.
 
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Wasn't the fight with the assassin at the lake kind of close too? It's been a while, so I can't remember specifics.
Yes, Buu is consitent in that, MC wins hardly and gets stronger, getting a new perk after.
 

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I can pretty much already picture a scene where MC hears a prayer in his head for the first time from one of his followers and is shocked about it.

Long-term (like end-game epilogue), I fully expect MC to become a literal god akin to Maia, who was essentially originally promised to be the god equivalent of his wife based on a few bits of dialogue.
On the topic of gods and harems, it's been confirmed that Maia, Gaia, and Malanthe are all potential future harem members. It would seem a bit unusual to me for not one but three goddesses to becomes MC's lovers if they didn't believe he could be at least an equal in the future. So that's another thing that makes me think that type of evolution is likely long-term.
 
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The bandits at the start got the drop on MC, taking advantage of his naivety. He only got out of it going berserk over Eliza.
The assassin at the lake was back and forth until the MC prevailed.
The skeletons in the cave overwhelmed him with numbers and it took Kira and the healing crystals to get him back in shape. (the crystals more than Kira)
After this, there's harem shenanigans so no fights for a long time. You see others show off while MC is in prison.
The Diana fight is a combination of a lot of factors but I ultimately agree that she was a good test for him. Someone stronger than Eliza needs to train him after all.
He hasn't really had a fight on the island yet. The priestess catching him by surprise is just plot writing and not really a fight. (doesn't he have enhanced senses?)
 

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The bandits at the start got the drop on MC, taking advantage of his naivety. He only got out of it going berserk over Eliza.
The assassin at the lake was back and forth until the MC prevailed.
The skeletons in the cave overwhelmed him with numbers and it took Kira and the healing crystals to get him back in shape. (the crystals more than Kira)
After this, there's harem shenanigans so no fights for a long time. You see others show off while MC is in prison.
The Diana fight is a combination of a lot of factors but I ultimately agree that she was a good test for him. Someone stronger than Eliza needs to train him after all.
He hasn't really had a fight on the island yet. The priestess catching him by surprise is just plot writing and not really a fight. (doesn't he have enhanced senses?)
Buu is usually several months ahead with releases (he recently mentioned he's currently working on the September 2025 release).

Why is this relevant? Back in October he shared this preview in Discord with the caption, "Who's ready for a fight?"

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So looks like we might have a fight on the island to look forward to soon. :)
 
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The only time I can think of, is in the early game with the bandits where we meet Eliza. At least up until the MC decided that his face had been licked for long enough.
Wasn't the fight with the assassin at the lake kind of close too? It's been a while, so I can't remember specifics.
Yes, Buu is consitent in that, MC wins hardly and gets stronger, getting a new perk after.
I wouldn't really say any of those fights are close. In all of them either the mc got jumped or was holding back. As far as the Diana fight went he should have died twice, but only survived because of his regen powers. And even then he only managed to tie and not win.

The other fights earlier were basically mc gets knocked around for a few times, decides to get serious and then easily defeats whoever he's fighting
 

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Since I haven't played in awhile I was wondering did the MC even bring that device to talk to Eliza from far away.
 

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The bandits at the start got the drop on MC, taking advantage of his naivety. He only got out of it going berserk over Eliza.
The assassin at the lake was back and forth until the MC prevailed.
The skeletons in the cave overwhelmed him with numbers and it took Kira and the healing crystals to get him back in shape. (the crystals more than Kira)
After this, there's harem shenanigans so no fights for a long time. You see others show off while MC is in prison.
The Diana fight is a combination of a lot of factors but I ultimately agree that she was a good test for him. Someone stronger than Eliza needs to train him after all.
He hasn't really had a fight on the island yet. The priestess catching him by surprise is just plot writing and not really a fight. (doesn't he have enhanced senses?)

I feel like the skeletons don't really count. Like you said he was just getting overwhelmed with numbers it's not like the skeletons alone were an actual problem. Diana has really been the only character that he couldn't really do much against
 

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Since I haven't played in awhile I was wondering did the MC even bring that device to talk to Eliza from far away.
I'm not sure. I don't think it's been mentioned one way or the other in the first two updates this Chapter, though I haven't played the current one yet (not yet out for my tier level).

Eliza and the others do at least know in general what MC is up to though via message from Diana through the King, if I remember right.
 
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