Ren'Py Completed Operation N.O.V.E.L [Act 1 v1.0.1] [Homeschool Studios]

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Deskitteh

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I mean I do agree that its annoying how inconsistent the rule is. Like "Lost Life" isnt allowed here but "Teaching Feeling" is. It makes zero sense.
I think that the staff are just lurkers and "Teaching Feeling" had threads you-know-where for years. The rule is applied as per personal preference. For instance, "Ethereal Sunder" and "Dog Princess and the Demon Steele" are up but "Ai, the devil, and the Curse of Lust" got taken down.

The basket-weaving forum and F95 have "bad blood" but realistically they share a user demographic, and I only found F95 because I used the hobby board years ago. As much as I hate Mongolian basket weaving, it's an excellent source of (extremely biased) information and a good way to find you way around the internet. It's not like anyone from the big 5 websites are talking about F95 in open.
 
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Deskitteh

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Tough calling this wasted potential considering this is still free in the age of AI crap being spewed out daily. Maybe one day the dev will grow out of their ideals and make something with this project. I'll wait out til the final release to finish.
The developer of this game is stubborn and hard-headed as a palette of bricks. Deeper in the closet than a trip to Narnia. The issue I have with this guy is that just lurking, I've watched this guy have more arguments than I care to count years ago.

I have nothing against them, but they're like Mike Inel where they made a game extremely controversial with the average folk that got significant attention, but couldn't handle the heat and crashed out trying to save as much face as they could. "What if Adventure Time Was A 3D Anime Game" was a great title but Mike didn't want the reputation for being a hentai game creator. The (at the time) Tumblr crowd ate him alive and he washed out.
 

Josh M Spicer

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I feel like this deserves "Abandoned" more than it does "Completed"
Nah, technically "Act 1" is completed so the title is accurate in that regard.

This is not complete? Or it is?
Does it have a sequel?
"Act 1" is completed. Act 2 is...I'm just gonna call it a work in progress.

The developer of this game is stubborn and hard-headed as a palette of bricks. Deeper in the closet than a trip to Narnia. The issue I have with this guy is that just lurking, I've watched this guy have more arguments than I care to count years ago.
Irrelevant seems mostly chill. AnonDive is the one who probably responds to too much criticism.

On the other hand, they revealed that the Equestria Girls fangame is purported to have more NSFW stuff than NOVEL. What that means, I don't know for sure, but given it's being drawn by MisCon I can only hope for good things.
 

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The developer of this game is stubborn and hard-headed as a palette of bricks. Deeper in the closet than a trip to Narnia. The issue I have with this guy is that just lurking, I've watched this guy have more arguments than I care to count years ago.

I have nothing against them, but they're like Mike Inel where they made a game extremely controversial with the average folk that got significant attention, but couldn't handle the heat and crashed out trying to save as much face as they could. "What if Adventure Time Was A 3D Anime Game" was a great title but Mike didn't want the reputation for being a hentai game creator. The (at the time) Tumblr crowd ate him alive and he washed out.
Oh man, I remember Mike Inel. Man, what a cuck.
 

Deskitteh

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alright what did i miss what got him being called a cuck
It's a mean word, but he made something really, really cool. He got some heat for it and chickened out in a bad way. At one point in a now deleted post he promised an even bigger game and showed off a huge number of assets and mechanics (probably as a mean-spirited joke) and then deleted a bunch of stuff and basically quit the scene.
I adored what he was making so it hurt to see.

The reasoning is basically the same as Operation Novel, but also some worries about parody licensing and probably some terror about suddenly being a big author for a big game which was catching attention he didn't want attached to him publicly.
 

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Is this game broken for anyone else? Can't seem to get passed the first choice at the beginning, it keeps hard crashing and closing the game on me.
 
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Wow knd that is nostalgic af but at the same time a adult game of a show focused on a bunch of kids? Hmm not one to judge usually but ehhh.
 

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It's a mean word, but he made something really, really cool. He got some heat for it and chickened out in a bad way. At one point in a now deleted post he promised an even bigger game and showed off a huge number of assets and mechanics (probably as a mean-spirited joke) and then deleted a bunch of stuff and basically quit the scene.
I adored what he was making so it hurt to see.

The reasoning is basically the same as Operation Novel, but also some worries about parody licensing and probably some terror about suddenly being a big author for a big game which was catching attention he didn't want attached to him publicly.
I'll move on after this since its off-topic and I respect ZONE but the same thing kind of happened to them tbh.
I wouldn't doubt that the effort/cost = reward ratio was probably not effective, spending months maybe a year for highly detailed animation for little payout, its the same reason Arin/Egoraptor opted to go Let's Play than continue making flash cartoons, easy slop you can pull out for better reach and success and look at them now, as opposed to their flash animation which is a death knell on a Youtube landscape if you want it to be your job.

Back to ZONE, they rarely do animations anymore, when's that Lord Dominator vid gonna ever come out? And even if they did, I doubt they'd dabble on ever going for Jenny from MLAATR or Toph again, or anything close to "problematic". All they do nowadays is stream watch-along slop, their VRchat robot, and any animation work they do goes to Z-TV which by the time they finish they may as well work on making the next episode. They have Patreon but the "rewards" are just SFW/safe porn pin ups of their mascot that they'll never make hardcore porn of.

Those probably have better payout than making an amazing porn parody animation of beloved cartoons, as sad as it is.
 

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You hire SoulCentinel, known for his porn of fictional characters most decisively underage, and MisCon, known for being a porn artist of fictional characters that oftentimes borders on off the cuff (or at least not vanilla stuff) and you limit your game to "ecchi" in an attempt to...sell more?

I had this same problem with JPDE, to be honest, even if that game was able to stand out on its own. You're making a porn parody of an existing property. There's no reason to stifle yourselves with some weird idea of being tasteful, or whatever excuses they have to do so.
Lmao what a complete waste of a geme and artists.
 

Deskitteh

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As is, I'm a huge fan of the game.

That said: I can't disagree with the notion of hiring SoulCentinel as an artist and then NOT having any porn in it. Lotta lewds, which are GREAT, don't get me wrong, but at some point, it gets kinda tiring seeing these characters in a compromising position and...then that's it.
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There's no reason to stifle yourselves with some weird idea of being tasteful, or whatever excuses they have to do so.
I mean really if the creators intend to make what is essentially already softcore pornography, you're already doing the thing they hate.

There's a little known test called "church mom". Church mom is the idea that you hypothetically tell the local... church mom ... what you are making and ask them what they think. Idealistically, this is the majority opinion of the average normie and not a gooner hentai game player.

If explain NOVEL to church mom and tell her that there's a difference between putting characters in a compromising position (nude, essentially) and sex with that character, they will tell you that "it doesn't fucking matter and that it's still awful." You can do this thought experiment with whatever topic you're stressing. Will the majority of the public like it or at least be forgiving and neutral? Well, if you can't talk about it on daytime television with church mom, the answer is "no!"

In that regard, they shouldn't necessarily be your concern what they think, because realistically you're already cooked, and you should just... appeal to your core audience and target demographic by making good, niche work with emphasis on making it a well-rounded experience.
 

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I mean really if the creators intend to make what is essentially already softcore pornography, you're already doing the thing they hate.

There's a little known test called "church mom". Church mom is the idea that you hypothetically tell the local... church mom ... what you are making and ask them what they think. Idealistically, this is the majority opinion of the average normie and not a gooner hentai game player.

If explain NOVEL to church mom and tell her that there's a difference between putting characters in a compromising position (nude, essentially) and sex with that character, they will tell you that "it doesn't fucking matter and that it's still awful." You can do this thought experiment with whatever topic you're stressing. Will the majority of the public like it or at least be forgiving and neutral? Well, if you can't talk about it on daytime television with church mom, the answer is "no!"

In that regard, they shouldn't necessarily be your concern what they think, because realistically you're already cooked, and you should just... appeal to your core audience and target demographic by making good, niche work with emphasis on making it a well-rounded experience.
Yeah, well said. Either make a family friendly KND fangame or do an actual porn VN, this halfway ecchi shit is for an audience of one.
 
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