Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[Beardedsmith]

And that's a problem.... why?

For people that pay for the game. the length of time between releases doesn't change anything. if he stuck with 2 months development time with 2 months worth of content to play. i payed for 2 months right? if he took 6 months to develop and it had 6 months worth of content. I still payed each month.

him releasing every 2 months, is still costing the same each month as a game that releases every 6 months or yearly. Do you understand what a monthly subscription is? So i don't get what people mean when they say he's "milking" us. when every dev on patreon gets monthly payments. he's not just sitting on his ass, NOT working on the game.

TLDR: a game that updates every month is the exact same in price and content as a game that updates yearly, if you stay pledged for the entire year in both scenarios.

The fact that this is the only part of my post you responded to speaks more than anything I can say. You know what the deal is, you're just too invested to admit it

 

[Greengoblinhobgoblin]

Noticed he put out a new update on patreon regarding the status. Does it confirm that it's being pushed back?

Yep couple of months.

 

[dartred]

The fact that this is the only part of my post you responded to speaks more than anything I can say. You know what the deal is, you're just too invested to admit it

and the fact that you don't deny that part of my post, says that i'm right. That's the part that matters. no one is being scammed and dev isn't milking. he's working on the game. what is the problem in that?

 

[turgsh01]

I don't know what his problems are and they're not my business anyway, but if (for example) it's something health-related, home-related, or even law-related, then I can understand why he has to put the game on the back burner, and why he may not know when it'll be finished.

If other businesses worked like that, there'd likely be a lot more bankrupt companies out there. Yes, life happens, but that doesn't mean you can just bail on work for it. We're supposed to balance life and work and not let one interfere with the other, otherwise, like any job out there, you can expect to, at the very minimum, lose income. But unfortunately, everyone is far more lenient with devs which they all know they can take advantage of.

 

[KingProphet!]

You know what Im in the first stage of grief so Ill wait till 11:59

 

[kingsam]

It's more than one year r we going for two years our is there any news about the update?

 

[Gwimmly]

If other businesses worked like that, there'd likely be a lot more bankrupt companies out there. Yes, life happens, but that doesn't mean you can just bail on work for it. We're supposed to balance life and work and not let one interfere with the other, otherwise, like any job out there, you can expect to, at the very minimum, lose income. But unfortunately, everyone is far more lenient with devs which they all know they can take advantage of.

You know that there has been countless delays for videogames since the beginning of videogaming right? I don't know why you guys think comparing game delays to the Joe Shmoe needs to meet his deadline for the project that the higher ups gave him is even remotely the samething.

 

[ShadowTower456]

if Cyberpunk had come out 3 years after its release it would have been remembered as a masterpiece, instead the shareholders wanted it to come out earlier with the consequences we know well. Never rush if you want a quality product

 

[storm1051787]

Question for all the people insisting the dev is milking. If the dev was milking why didn't he just say that the update will be in April? Instead of end of march and he'll refund people that slip

That math doesn't work. A year and a half for one update is not just an increased workload. It's decreased productivity. Chapter 13 won't be the size of his first year and a half of content. I'm calling that right now. And even if you wanted to use that excuse, it was his choice to do so. He decides how bloated the chapters get, he decides not to release smaller updates throughout the year.

First, why are you saying it's a year and a half? Last update came out in January 2024 it's end of march start of April so that's only been around a year in 3 months. Second why would that be a decrease in productivity? That's not how productivity works. You calculate productivity by the by how much of something is produced. What your suggesting would be fine if we were trying to calculate something with a set amount but it doesn't work the same for everything. If your judging how productive an author has been you don't go based on the amount of novels they've written, but the amount of words per paper they've managed to produce in a given time frame. Is writing 5 short stories a year more productive than writing a full novel?


Same with video game development. A game with a 20 hour story took less time to come out than a game with a 50 hour story and double the map size. Yeah he can decide how bloated his chapters were but why does it matter? It's really just about how you choose to divide the content.


If the wait time really bothers you go play a different game in the meantime.

 

[uscmiller22]

If other businesses worked like that, there'd likely be a lot more bankrupt companies out there. Yes, life happens, but that doesn't mean you can just bail on work for it. We're supposed to balance life and work and not let one interfere with the other, otherwise, like any job out there, you can expect to, at the very minimum, lose income. But unfortunately, everyone is far more lenient with devs which they all know they can take advantage of.

Don’t even try to explain it. They’ll excuse anything and everything this guy does. He’s perfect in their eyes and you’ll never be able to change their minds no matter how many deadlines get missed, lies he tells, etc.

These dudes really think he’s hard at work every single day but just now realized he’s months behind, super believable. No helping them.

 

[Only1P]

I just dont understand why would he say hes working day and night on the update at the start of March but now hes saying he had such little time to work on it that he needs a couple more months to develop it a couple weeks later , thats a lie theres no denying it, now does that ultimately make him a scammer or a con artist, hell no, but he lied nonetheless.

 

[preglovr12]

I just dont understand why would he say hes working day and night on the update at the start of March but now hes saying he had such little time to work on it that he needs a couple more months to develop it a couple weeks later , thats a lie theres no denying it, now does that ultimately make him a scammer or a con artist, hell no, but he lied nonetheless.

I dont know shit about WWG. Is it possible his wife had a baby prematurely, leading him to have a lot less time in the short term than he thought he would? It would explain quite a few things, his laser focus to get Chap 13 with all the NTR content out as a huge chunk and releasing the epilogues singularly when he knew he'd have less time.

 

[Gwimmly]

Don’t even try to explain it. They’ll excuse anything and everything this guy does. He’s perfect in their eyes and you’ll never be able to change their minds no matter how many deadlines get missed, lies he tells, etc.

These dudes really think he’s hard at work every single day but just now realized he’s months behind, super believable. No helping them.

First of all no one is perfect, but calling him a grifter is just straight up lying. If he was a scammer he wouldn't put out updates monthly. He wouldn't have offered a refund. I'll never understand how someone who isn't a sub feels that they have been wronged or lied to in some way because of a delay

 

[dartred]

First of all no one is perfect, but calling him a grifter is just straight up lying. If he was a scammer he wouldn't put out updates monthly. He wouldn't have offered a refund. I'll never understand how someone who isn't a sub feels that they have been wronged or lied to in some way because of a delay

not only that, 2 updates a month when some devs only do 1 update per month with a single image.

 

[Gwimmly]

not only that, 2 updates a month when some devs only do 1 update per month with a single image.

True forgot about the teasers

 

[cosmefulanito333]

If we are comparing, i dont think i’ve ever seen a dev fail this big at estimating a release, other than obvious scammers which i hope is not the standard wwg is held up to

 

[Only1P]

I dont know shit about WWG. Is it possible his wife had a baby prematurely, leading him to have a lot less time in the short term than he thought he would? It would explain quite a few things, his laser focus to get Chap 13 with all the NTR content out as a huge chunk and releasing the epilogues singularly when he knew he'd have less time.

And that would be completely valid with no context at all, we can assume he probably realized he wont have no time to work on the chapter in the near future because something turned up so he felt like he had to postpone it for months.
But, when I try to apply it to whats been said so far it doesnt make sense at all.

He specifically mentions that he has been "losing large amounts of time" since December, while if you look at the progress reports theres nothing that even hints to a slowdown, except for that one time related to holidays, In fact I would argue quite the opposite has been communicated throught the previous months of 2025 stuff like "Im expecting a March Release", "Its been a brutal wait", "Ive been working non stop" "I plan on releasing the update this month"
"I'll let you know if anything comes up" have been said throughout the months since the start of this year.

You see, nothing here alludes to a slowdown in development pace, so one last thing is left to assume, theres quite a disparity between whats been communicated throught the past months in the status updates to what was actually going on.

 

[preglovr12]

He specifically mentions that he has been "losing large amounts of time" since December, while if you look at the progress reports theres nothing that even hints to a slowdown, except for that one time related to holidays, In fact I would argue quite the opposite has been communicated throught the previous months of 2025

Purely in the context of 2025 I'd agree, but if you include a few months of 2024 it's apparent he hit a wall:

May 2024 Status Update: 39%

July 2024 Status Update: 56%

Sept 2024 Status Update: 70%

Nov 2024 Status Update: 83%
Dec 2024 Status Update: 89%
Jan 2025 Status Update: 93%

You can see he was averaging about 7% a month for about 6 months until the start of 2025. I know the final stretch gets more compressed and tedious, but ultimately I agree something doesn't seem right, I just dont see lying.

 

[dartred]

I think talking about the delay has gone on long enough. especially when we have a rule against it.

 

[cosmefulanito333]

I think talking about the delay has gone on long enough. especially when we have a rule against it.

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Hilarious, let the mods handle that, one just recently mentioned talking about the delay is fine