Ren'Py Power Vacuum [Ch. 12 Official] [What? Why? Games]

[PPlate]

Man, March really has been the month of adult creators embarrassing themselves huh?

Which other games has this happened to recently?

 

[Remmer]

so many creators have begun doing this its such a cash grab and people need to wake up and stop defending it. They see the big numbers and decide to milk it for as long as they can. "Oooh my hard drive died" "ooh ive not been doing too well mentally"...Bro you're making $$$$ a month and basically can work for yourself, choose when you work, go on holiday most months etc,,, pretty sure every major game has slowed down production massively. Wouldn't be surprised if they barely put two days of work in a week anymore.

 

[Beardedsmith]

It's been about a week since i've had to clear this up, guess it's that time again.

The cycles get longer because the game gets bigger. look at this post and the post i linked in it. it breaks down why updates take longer.

https://thef95zone.info/threads/power-vacuum-ch-12-official-what-why-games.36240/post-16272838

That math doesn't work. A year and a half for one update is not just an increased workload. It's decreased productivity. Chapter 13 won't be the size of his first year and a half of content. I'm calling that right now. And even if you wanted to use that excuse, it was his choice to do so. He decides how bloated the chapters get, he decides not to release smaller updates throughout the year.

Just like he decided to wait until literal days before the last day of his own self imposed release to say he wasn't even close to making it. And that's after he directly said he wasn't going to delay it. In a post you made here he said he would not be delaying it past March. There's no way he didn't know how much more work there was to do when he said that. So, I have no choice but to believe he's a liar

 

[dartred]

And even if you wanted to use that excuse, it was his choice to do so. He decides how bloated the chapters get, he decides not to release smaller updates throughout the year.

And that's a problem.... why?

For people that pay for the game. the length of time between releases doesn't change anything. if he stuck with 2 months development time with 2 months worth of content to play. i payed for 2 months right? if he took 6 months to develop and it had 6 months worth of content. I still payed each month.

him releasing every 2 months, is still costing the same each month as a game that releases every 6 months or yearly. Do you understand what a monthly subscription is? So i don't get what people mean when they say he's "milking" us. when every dev on patreon gets monthly payments. he's not just sitting on his ass, NOT working on the game.

TLDR: a game that updates every month is the exact same in price and content as a game that updates yearly, if you stay pledged for the entire year in both scenarios.

 

[cat9876]

so many creators have begun doing this its such a cash grab and people need to wake up and stop defending it. They see the big numbers and decide to milk it for as long as they can. "Oooh my hard drive died" "ooh ive not been doing too well mentally"...Bro you're making $$$$ a month and basically can work for yourself, choose when you work, go on holiday most months etc,,, pretty sure every major game has slowed down production massively. Wouldn't be surprised if they barely put two days of work in a week anymore.

two days a week seems pretty generous....

 

[mads0504]

Noticed he put out a new update on patreon regarding the status. Does it confirm that it's being pushed back?

 

[Beardedsmith]

And that's a problem.... why?

For people that pay for the game. the length of time between releases doesn't change anything. if he stuck with 2 months development time with 2 months worth of content to play. i payed for 2 months right? if he took 6 months to develop and it had 6 months worth of content. I still payed each month.

him releasing every 2 months, is still costing the same each month as a game that releases every 6 months or yearly. Do you understand what a monthly subscription is? So i don't get what people mean when they say he's "milking" us. when every dev on patreon gets monthly payments. he's not just sitting on his ass, NOT working on the game.

TLDR: a game that updates every month is the exact same in price and content as a game that updates yearly, if you stay pledged for the entire year in both scenarios.

The fact that this is the only part of my post you responded to speaks more than anything I can say. You know what the deal is, you're just too invested to admit it

 

[Greengoblinhobgoblin]

Noticed he put out a new update on patreon regarding the status. Does it confirm that it's being pushed back?

Yep couple of months.

 

[dartred]

The fact that this is the only part of my post you responded to speaks more than anything I can say. You know what the deal is, you're just too invested to admit it

and the fact that you don't deny that part of my post, says that i'm right. That's the part that matters. no one is being scammed and dev isn't milking. he's working on the game. what is the problem in that?

 

[turgsh01]

I don't know what his problems are and they're not my business anyway, but if (for example) it's something health-related, home-related, or even law-related, then I can understand why he has to put the game on the back burner, and why he may not know when it'll be finished.

If other businesses worked like that, there'd likely be a lot more bankrupt companies out there. Yes, life happens, but that doesn't mean you can just bail on work for it. We're supposed to balance life and work and not let one interfere with the other, otherwise, like any job out there, you can expect to, at the very minimum, lose income. But unfortunately, everyone is far more lenient with devs which they all know they can take advantage of.

 

[KingProphet!]

You know what Im in the first stage of grief so Ill wait till 11:59

 

[kingsam]

It's more than one year r we going for two years our is there any news about the update?

 

[Gwimmly]

If other businesses worked like that, there'd likely be a lot more bankrupt companies out there. Yes, life happens, but that doesn't mean you can just bail on work for it. We're supposed to balance life and work and not let one interfere with the other, otherwise, like any job out there, you can expect to, at the very minimum, lose income. But unfortunately, everyone is far more lenient with devs which they all know they can take advantage of.

You know that there has been countless delays for videogames since the beginning of videogaming right? I don't know why you guys think comparing game delays to the Joe Shmoe needs to meet his deadline for the project that the higher ups gave him is even remotely the samething.

 

[ShadowTower456]

if Cyberpunk had come out 3 years after its release it would have been remembered as a masterpiece, instead the shareholders wanted it to come out earlier with the consequences we know well. Never rush if you want a quality product

 

[storm1051787]

Question for all the people insisting the dev is milking. If the dev was milking why didn't he just say that the update will be in April? Instead of end of march and he'll refund people that slip

That math doesn't work. A year and a half for one update is not just an increased workload. It's decreased productivity. Chapter 13 won't be the size of his first year and a half of content. I'm calling that right now. And even if you wanted to use that excuse, it was his choice to do so. He decides how bloated the chapters get, he decides not to release smaller updates throughout the year.

First, why are you saying it's a year and a half? Last update came out in January 2024 it's end of march start of April so that's only been around a year in 3 months. Second why would that be a decrease in productivity? That's not how productivity works. You calculate productivity by the by how much of something is produced. What your suggesting would be fine if we were trying to calculate something with a set amount but it doesn't work the same for everything. If your judging how productive an author has been you don't go based on the amount of novels they've written, but the amount of words per paper they've managed to produce in a given time frame. Is writing 5 short stories a year more productive than writing a full novel?


Same with video game development. A game with a 20 hour story took less time to come out than a game with a 50 hour story and double the map size. Yeah he can decide how bloated his chapters were but why does it matter? It's really just about how you choose to divide the content.


If the wait time really bothers you go play a different game in the meantime.

 

[uscmiller22]

If other businesses worked like that, there'd likely be a lot more bankrupt companies out there. Yes, life happens, but that doesn't mean you can just bail on work for it. We're supposed to balance life and work and not let one interfere with the other, otherwise, like any job out there, you can expect to, at the very minimum, lose income. But unfortunately, everyone is far more lenient with devs which they all know they can take advantage of.

Don’t even try to explain it. They’ll excuse anything and everything this guy does. He’s perfect in their eyes and you’ll never be able to change their minds no matter how many deadlines get missed, lies he tells, etc.

These dudes really think he’s hard at work every single day but just now realized he’s months behind, super believable. No helping them.

 

[Only1P]

I just dont understand why would he say hes working day and night on the update at the start of March but now hes saying he had such little time to work on it that he needs a couple more months to develop it a couple weeks later , thats a lie theres no denying it, now does that ultimately make him a scammer or a con artist, hell no, but he lied nonetheless.

 

[preglovr12]

I just dont understand why would he say hes working day and night on the update at the start of March but now hes saying he had such little time to work on it that he needs a couple more months to develop it a couple weeks later , thats a lie theres no denying it, now does that ultimately make him a scammer or a con artist, hell no, but he lied nonetheless.

I dont know shit about WWG. Is it possible his wife had a baby prematurely, leading him to have a lot less time in the short term than he thought he would? It would explain quite a few things, his laser focus to get Chap 13 with all the NTR content out as a huge chunk and releasing the epilogues singularly when he knew he'd have less time.

 

[Gwimmly]

Don’t even try to explain it. They’ll excuse anything and everything this guy does. He’s perfect in their eyes and you’ll never be able to change their minds no matter how many deadlines get missed, lies he tells, etc.

These dudes really think he’s hard at work every single day but just now realized he’s months behind, super believable. No helping them.

First of all no one is perfect, but calling him a grifter is just straight up lying. If he was a scammer he wouldn't put out updates monthly. He wouldn't have offered a refund. I'll never understand how someone who isn't a sub feels that they have been wronged or lied to in some way because of a delay

 

[dartred]

First of all no one is perfect, but calling him a grifter is just straight up lying. If he was a scammer he wouldn't put out updates monthly. He wouldn't have offered a refund. I'll never understand how someone who isn't a sub feels that they have been wronged or lied to in some way because of a delay

not only that, 2 updates a month when some devs only do 1 update per month with a single image.