I support whatever time WWG needs to take. That being said, I believe most peoples frustrations isn't about the missed date but more about the lack of transparency. If they would have said they were dealing with some irl issues from the jump, I don't believe they would be getting as much heat as they are now. WWG post the march 1st status update saying planning release end of month and let us say irl issue happens on the 2nd, which requires most if not all of their attention the next couple weeks. When they posted the teaser salad on the 15th, they should have let us know there. Days before planned release is not ideal.
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It's not just that. it's the amount of time too. If it was 1 or 2 week delay like last update then the last minute status update would be easy to swallow. "At least 2 months" is so crazy that I still think he might have meant to say "at most 2 months"
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Yeah it is hard to swallow "at least two months". Cause if we were to go off the march 1st post, they should only have had about 4 weeks of work left. I have to imagine its a combination of them miscalculating the work they had left and personal issues. Hopefully you are right and WWG meant to say "at most 2 months".
I'm sorry, I don't know why you quoted me in this post. It has nothing to do with my (genuine) question, which wasn't even addressed to you.
Speaking of which...
I'm sorry, the man who made it clear he will never give a hard deadline, so that he would never have to go over it, said he wouldn't delay the game again? When did he do that? Because I'm looking at the updates of the last year and a half, and I can't find anywhere where he said that.
You mean to tell me that people don’t like being misled and lied to??? What a shocking concept. “So you’re telling me if he didn’t lie and mislead his fans, they wouldn’t be as angry?” How is this even an actual question you need to pose.
Of course you just excuse it and act like that’s not shady, we all know you’ll never say anything even remotely resembling criticism about your lord and savior.
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uh... what? the problem is he missed his prediction. missing his prediction made the "lie". if he just worked on the game without giving a prediction, there's nothing that he could have lied about. how is that so hard to understand?
you guys are mad at what he said. if he said nothing, there'd be nothing for you guys to be angry at. he could have just continued releasing his teasers every 2 weeks until the game eventually dropped.
again, like i said in my last post and you're proving it here. You guys are mad that he missed his prediction.
edit: forgot to address the first part. i never said that. i never said people don't like that. when did i even talk about that? weird thing to put into my mouth. as a matter of fact, i said i disliked the delay several times in this thread and even on the previous page.
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Huh? If he said nothing people would still be wondering where the hell the update is that he said was 93% completed at the beginning of January, likely claiming that to be a lie.
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not really. the argument is his predictions. if he never did percentages or any form of tell of how much he thought he had complete, there would be no lie to poke at. it would just waiting for teasers and see when it drops.
and yes, how much he "thought" he had completed. The game is worked on and developed with just an idea what the next update will hold. ask most devs, scenes are added as it goes. You often get a flash of an idea and you add a scene that wasn't planned. In this case, it's the devs last chapter. he said he is trying to include as much as possible. Not to mention he had to add extra scenes for the last chance polls.
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I want those sweet, sweet "tech updates" 
- May 1, 2018
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If he never said anything people would be mad he never said anything. Sure, there'd be less people mad but he'd probably have less patrons as well. This is a pointless thought experiment and idk what point youre trying to make.
We know he's doing epilogues, and if he's this far behind, why not just save a couple scenes for the epilogues? In December he said it was a slow month in which he had the flu and obviously the holidays yet he still completed 4% of the update. We're three months away from that point and he thinks he needs another couple?
That was the truth. He shouldn't have made this random announcement.
After waiting for more than a year, everyone was waiting anxiously and suppressed.
His sudden announcement was like a battle horn, inspiring everyone's fighting spirit. His popularity reached its peak.
Then he "mistaken".
The anger is justified. Even for free players. These free players come because they love and look forward to this game too.
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I didn't say, "say nothing". I said, anything to do when it's going to release. He would still posts status updates every 15 days as usual to show his work and what scenes he's done. things that get people excited for the upcoming chapter.
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This is weird. you say free players. Just call it what they are, pirates and that's fine. I'm guilty of pirating games too, it's why were all on this site. The way you word it makes it sound like WWG gives out a free edition. Which some devs do.
it's just weird that the people that are pirating, are complaining the loudest, telling the pledgers what they should be feeling. While the people pledging have been mostly cool headed and understanding.
Why is that? that the pledges are not the ones up in arms, but the pirates are angry about the missed date?
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Most of his recent status updates are literally just a percentage...
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I know. I'm talking about that being the root the problem. He gave %'s and timeframes and he wasn't on the mark. The forum exploded. So i called out that the anger stems from the dev's post about his timeframes. So i'm saying that the anger is really dumb and that can be cancelled out by the dev not posting things like %'s and guesses. Instead just work on the game and keep us updated. his pledgers are not the ones mad that he missed his guess.
what i'm trying to get at is. If he didn't give us timeframes on when he thought he was going to finish, this bump in the road that happened to him could have happened and we would have never know, unless he tells us. We would just assume he is working on the game, business as usual. we wouldn't have known it happened right at the finish line either. .he would just continue with teasers and normal status updates every 15 days.
that about sums it up.
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The root of the problem is this update is taking forever and people are frustrated, and anything they could complain about, they would.
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It's not what the root of the arguments for pages has been. Not even my words, but theirs. The complaints have been the missed deadline he set on himself. it's all the complaints have been about. The length itself is not what people are mad about. The pledgers have been patient and will continue to wait. So no, length is not the cause of the pages of debating.
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Y'all still mad about this, that's crazy. It's been almost a week, just move on. Guy just couldn't update on time when he said he could, ended up baiting literally everyone until the last straw. It is what it is, only people getting shafted are the people who pledged. The rest of us should just touch grass until the guy wants to release the update, it's not the end of the world. Type shit.
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The length is why people feel lied to. Going from "This'll take a month" to "I need two more months, three total" is what feels most like the lie. I dont think WWG lied personally, but I do think, given all the evidence, that he didnt keep his word when he said he'd keep people up to date. Two more months of work dont manifest themselves out of thin air.
IDK why you keep bringing up pledgers as if they matter. Ever heard of the suck cost fallacy?
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The pledgers don't matter? How can you say that? The pledgers are ALL that matter. Keep them happy and they stay pledge and for the most part, yes, the most part, they have been. We aren't going to judge his 5 years of development over this 2 month delay.
This game doesn't run off the pirates. Having pledgers are what keep the game in development. This game is WWGs main income. To say that pledgers don't matter, like this game would exist without them?
Just imagine if he made the game for pirates first and his pledgers second. I don't care what side of the argument you're on. You absolutely know the pledgers (aka the money) should be WWGs goals.