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This update was hopeing to see Abby want to meet her siblings and maybe Frank getting close to their mother. For me the issue is Frank dialog you already crossed what lines he's worried about, let me rephrase blew up every line. So these moral crisis are getting annoying I enjoyed him being reluctant in the beginning now it is time to own up and take control. This should I and it's wrong shit ended once he went balls deep in all his daughters and they licked cum off each other's faces like a cult ritual.:ROFLMAO:
 
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MrLKX

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When was Frank taken advantaged in a rigged court? The Judge talked to Becca and Lily before Shannon started lying about him in their divorce hearing and awarded him alimony from her.
Wrong situation. OP is referring to the trial when Jess was run over by the drunk party girl. Turns out the parents were probably well off financially, the family is friends with Beth's family, and party girl's father pulled out all the stops to get his daughter off with a slap on the wrist. We got more context on this a few updates ago:

The mother has never forgiven her husband for this and was finally able to get him to change his will so that the daughter only gets the obligatory share.

Said mother had also hired detectives to make sure Frank and Abby didn't get into any trouble.

Speaking of trouble: The lady also sent people to Frank every time she heard that someone in her circle was looking for an apartment (including Beth and Vanessa, which coincidentally led to the friendship between the two and the Shavells)
 

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I know it take alot of work and money to crate these games, but I don't understand why so many Dev's out there have to always make the MC out to be whining morons in alot of the games. I guess I'm to old to understand or get it, but why do they do it and they're even doing it in Anime. I really do like this game, but I do get so annoyed like some people do I'm sure at times with how the MC reacts and what they say. I'm 75 and really hooked on VN's maybe my oldtimers is kicking in is why I don't understand it. Well enough my complaining. I really hope you guys and girls won't be to hard on this oldtimer:cool:
 
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Its amazing you think just because there is one kink in a decent game people should be forced to watch those acts happen and if they dont want to be exposed to it means they hate the people who do. There isnt even that much lesbian content in the game. Its literally brought up more by the MC than the two girls. The two actual married lesbians in the game aren't brought up as much as this weird fuck keeps bringing up his daughters fucking each other. No one cares they're gay, they care the MC is a gaslighting POS who had to trick his daughter into a relationship she was clearly protesting from the start with her mentally unstable best friend and all so other men cant fuck her. Made 10x worse by the fact you keep fucking the girl you convinced her to date, but yeah just people hating gay people......ffs...
Agree 100%. I don't give a fuck Abby and Lilly have been fooling around since high school and typically get together anytime Lilly is currently single. I'm fine with it, but what I'm not fine with is Frank, that paragon of morals -- always talking down to Abby and Lily and telling them what they 'should be' instead of keeping things as the status quo until they say otherwise... all just to manipulate them into the EXACT same relationship Beth and Nessa have, just to keep them both (but Abby especially) from fucking other men.

He literally wants to have it both ways, to not be with them/push them together/but also deny them the freedom dating whoever they want to be with, regardless of gender... all while feeling guilty getting jealous every time he hears or is told of them having sex. His act is so tired, all this whining and simping, no matter how many times others tell him it's ok to love his girls the way THEY TELL HIM THEY WANT HIM TO LOVE THEM... but no, clearly Frank knows better. :FacePalm:

To quote the post I was talking about:
"more lesbian crap constantly, with no way to avoid it, now talking about Using strap-on dildos"

The person was moaning about lesbian content, not just the strap on, in a game that is clearly marked as having lesbian content. There are games with kinks I don't like. You know what I do? I ignore those games. I don't download it, go through the content then troll the message boards moaning that there is content that was clearly marked as being in the game. That is why each game has those tags at the top of the page, so you can tell if it will have content you will or won't like. It is called being an adult and being responsible for your own actions. Try it sometime.
You do know that just having a tag doesn't indicate how much of that kind of content is in the game right? Believe it or not some devs actually give the player a chance to opt out/avoid or skip those kinks. There are also several times when those kinks play a minor role or a limited to side/avoidable characters.
 
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I know it take alot of work and money to crate these games, but I don't understand why so many Dev's out there have to always make the MC out to be whining morons in alot of the games. I guess I'm to old to understand or get it, but why do they do it and they're even doing it in Anime.
this one takes the bag for older MC's , there are plenty off VN's that don't follow that narrative though.
 

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Agree 100%. I don't give a fuck Abby and Lilly have been fooling around since high school and typically get together anytime Lilly is currently single. I'm fine with it, but what I'm not fine with is Frank, that paragon of morals -- always talking down to Abby and Lily and telling them what they 'should be' instead of keeping things as the status quo until they say otherwise... all just to manipulate them into the EXACT same relationship Beth and Nessa have, just to keep them both (but Abby especially) from fucking other men.

He literally wants to have it both ways, to not be with them/push them together/but also deny them the freedom dating whoever they want to be with, regardless of gender... all while feeling guilty getting jealous every time he hears or is told of them having sex. His act is so tired, all this whining and simping, no matter how many times others tell him it's ok to love his girls the way THEY TELL HIM THEY WANT HIM TO LOVE THEM... but no, clearly Frank knows better.
Before CNG had to row back with Abby & Lilly, I had hoped that Frank's hypocrisy (and I actually see Lilly complicit here too, why below) would be the key point that Frank and Lilly have no choice but to accept Abby in the whole intimacy thing once Abby finds out.

As a reminder, both Lilly and Frank are aware of Abby's feelings for Frank. Frank tried to set Abby and Lilly up with each other (which Lilly knows) but have the whole thing going on in parallel. Ironically, they both hate cheaters, but would qualify for it in my eyes in this scenario, since Frank & Lilly and Abby & Lilly would be running simultaneously, but Abby is the only one who doesn't know about it. Since Lilly is not a master of subtlety, I thought that something Lilly would do would result in Abby finding out. This could have led to Abby standing up to them and giving them both a fairly obvious ultimatum. In the meantime, she would, secretly - probably only Becca would know about it - stay with Beth and Vanessa. At least that's how I would have tried to approach it, if I was CNG (I am not).
 
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Agree 100%. I don't give a fuck Abby and Lilly have been fooling around since high school and typically get together anytime Lilly is currently single. I'm fine with it, but what I'm not fine with is Frank, that paragon of morals -- always talking down to Abby and Lily and telling them what they 'should be' instead of keeping things as the status quo until they say otherwise... all just to manipulate them into the EXACT same relationship Beth and Nessa have, just to keep them both (but Abby especially) from fucking other men.

He literally wants to have it both ways, to not be with them/push them together/but also deny them the freedom dating whoever they want to be with, regardless of gender... all while feeling guilty getting jealous every time he hears or is told of them having sex. His act is so tired, all this whining and simping, no matter how many times others tell him it's ok to love his girls the way THEY TELL HIM THEY WANT HIM TO LOVE THEM... but no, clearly Frank knows better. :FacePalm:


You do know that just having a tag doesn't indicate how much of that kind of content is in the game right? Believe it or not some devs actually give the player a chance to opt out/avoid or skip those kinks. There are also several times when those kinks play a minor role or a limited to side/avoidable characters.
Choices in a Renpy Game!? U gotta be pulling my leg! For real though, is there a way for me to ignore whatever happens between Abby and Lilith? I just dont wanna know. Just imagine if Abby/Lilith was a dude, famalam would have lost their collective shit
 
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To quote the post I was talking about:
"more lesbian crap constantly, with no way to avoid it, now talking about Using strap-on dildos"

The person was moaning about lesbian content, not just the strap on, in a game that is clearly marked as having lesbian content. There are games with kinks I don't like. You know what I do? I ignore those games. I don't download it, go through the content then troll the message boards moaning that there is content that was clearly marked as being in the game. That is why each game has those tags at the top of the page, so you can tell if it will have content you will or won't like. It is called being an adult and being responsible for your own actions. Try it sometime.
Guess you have played kinetic novels all your life, but when the story revolves around choices, it might come as a shock to you but people want choices in those VNs.
 

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Did i miss a choice where i can completely bar any details between Abby and Lilith? i really dont wanna know or see anything between them...
Sadly no, we're beaten over the head with having to suffer through all the details of their sex life... for reasons. Hey, it's great Frank is supportive of them being fuck buddies/friends with benefits, and we know eventually Abby will join the poly relationship, but somehow being ok with knowing what's going on between them = being subjected to hearing a play-by-play report along with their their kinks and use of introducing toys, because why not?
 

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Sadly no, we're beaten over the head with having to suffer through all the details of their sex life... for reasons. Hey, it's great Frank is supportive of them being fuck buddies/friends with benefits, and we know eventually Abby will join the poly relationship, but somehow being ok with knowing what's going on between them = being subjected to hearing a play-by-play report along with their their kinks and use of introducing toys, because why not?
After almost 3 years this is where we're at, huh? That's disappointing, I don't wanna KNOW!
 

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Wrong situation. OP is referring to the trial when Jess was run over by the drunk party girl. Turns out the parents were probably well off financially, the family is friends with Beth's family, and party girl's father pulled out all the stops to get his daughter off with a slap on the wrist. We got more context on this a few updates ago:

The mother has never forgiven her husband for this and was finally able to get him to change his will so that the daughter only gets the obligatory share.

Said mother had also hired detectives to make sure Frank and Abby didn't get into any trouble.

Speaking of trouble: The lady also sent people to Frank every time she heard that someone in her circle was looking for an apartment (including Beth and Vanessa, which coincidentally led to the friendship between the two and the Shavells)
I think the party girl's name (and Jessica's killer) is Penelope Dubois (she changed her surname after she got married overseas and divorced some months later). Her brothers Travis and Ken Lastoya weren't too fond of how their father spoiled her rotten her when she was young due to her being the favourite (even Ken the youngest straight up called her garbage).
And the family's lawyers are also representing the protagonist and Abby. Shannon says "You think your new lawyers can protect you" in reference to that after she leaves when she tried to force her way into the Shavells' place, and the very likely lawsuit she'll try to take to court again (in any case Judge Simmons has in her recordings how she lied about her ex sexually assaulting her and her daughters).
 
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I think the party girl's name (and Jessica's killer) is Penelope Dubois (she changed her surname after she got married overseas and divorced some months later). Her brothers Travis and Ken Lastoya weren't too fond of how their father spoiled her rotten her when she was young due to her being the favourite (even Ken the youngest straight up called her garbage).
And the family's lawyers are also representing the protagonist and Abby. Shannon says "You think your new lawyers can protect you" in reference to that after she leaves when she tried to force her way into the Shavells' place, and the very likely lawsuit she'll try to take to court again (in any case Judge Simmons has in her recordings how she lied about her ex sexually assaulting her and her daughters).
Thank you for the reminder. I think it would be interesting if Party girl (she's not worth naming) became part of the plot, and teamed up with Shannon to take Frank and co. out of the house, which then fails because both women are also trying to rip each other off. But I have no idea how this could be played out in the context of the plot so far. Accordingly, I don't think she has to appear if she can't really contribute anything to the plot.
 
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Guess you have played kinetic novels all your life, but when the story revolves around choices, it might come as a shock to you but people want choices in those VNs.
You don't get to choose everything. Did you get the choice to divorce Shannon? Did you get the choice to marry Jessica and adopt Abby? Did you get the choice to reject Nessa and Beth as customers? Did you get the choice to exclude Mei from the entire game? Did you get the choice to not get the apartment for Lilly and Becca? Did you get the choice to not sleep in the bed with Abby all the way through the game? Games do give you choices, but they also have to force some things to keep the narrative going. The dev is the story teller and he is including the content he wants. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to play it.

Sadly no, we're beaten over the head with having to suffer through all the details of their sex life... for reasons. Hey, it's great Frank is supportive of them being fuck buddies/friends with benefits, and we know eventually Abby will join the poly relationship, but somehow being ok with knowing what's going on between them = being subjected to hearing a play-by-play report along with their their kinks and use of introducing toys, because why not?
If you don't like lesbian content, don't download a game with the lesbian tag. You are slapping yourself in the face.

You do know that just having a tag doesn't indicate how much of that kind of content is in the game right? Believe it or not some devs actually give the player a chance to opt out/avoid or skip those kinks. There are also several times when those kinks play a minor role or a limited to side/avoidable characters.
You still get told the content is there. I personally don't want to see vore games, even if it is one scene in a 50 hour story. If I see it tagged, I don't download it and don't visit the comments to moan about it. I take responsibility for my choices and don't cry about it constantly in the game thread.

The names on the labels don't match the names in the dialogue, how do I resolved this?
Back up your saves, then delete the persistant data. That might fix it for you.
 
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You don't get to choose everything. Did you get the choice to divorce Shannon? Did you get the choice to marry Jessica and adopt Abby? Did you get the choice to reject Nessa and Beth as customers? Did you get the choice to exclude Mei from the entire game? Did you get the choice to not get the apartment for Lilly and Becca? Did you get the choice to not sleep in the bed with Abby all the way through the game? Games do give you choices, but they also have to force some things to keep the narrative going. The dev is the story teller and he is including the content he wants. If you don't like it, nobody is forcing you to play it.



If you don't like lesbian content, don't download a game with the lesbian tag. You are slapping yourself in the face.


You still get told the content is there. I personally don't want to see vore games, even if it is one scene in a 50 hour story. If I see it tagged, I don't download it and don't visit the comments to moan about it. I take responsibility for my choices and don't cry about it constantly in the game thread.


Back up your saves, then delete the persistant data. That might fix it for you.
You're talking common sense and logic on F95....

....I'm going to have to ask you stop immediately :WeSmart: :ROFLMAO:
 

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Abby doesn't want to be coupled with Lily but MC keeps gaslighting it with dev keeps showing it. Now talking about strap-on with MC? I don't mind married couples and showing it. Just Dev keeps on repeating MC over and over again with the same dialog.
Did you read ANYTHING Abby said? She's not even *slightly* reluctant to be with Lily, she just wants kids. Franks to be exact, no gaslighting needed.

Sorry, but no chick reluctantly goes out unprompted to buy a strapon to fuck the girl she's been casually hooking up with for AGES.


Ironically, they both hate cheaters, but would qualify for it in my eyes in this scenario, since Frank & Lilly and Abby & Lilly would be running simultaneously, but Abby is the only one who doesn't know about it.
Abby has said, MANY times she and Lily aren't in a relationship. No cheating there.
Frank knows Lily hooks up with Abby and is fine with it. No cheating there.
 
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