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Wonder Wolf

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I'm downloading LS right now. And i will get back to you on that, once i see it. So far every times someone said a game looks as good a SH it turn out to not be the case (to me at least). I'll see^^


Of course, there will also always be peoples/devs faster than other too, no matter what. There are always someone somewhere who is better than you, right? It's true for everything.

LS dev is also more experienced, he have completed a game before. When you see the differences between the first and the second AVN of some devs you can tell how much it matter ( CF for example: DPC, Caribdis: the gap between their respective first game and they current one is huge, colossal even)

Something that can influence a lot too is how much work they put into assets and models. Do the devs just grab existent ones? Are they using them as it? Or are they putting work into customising them? Or maybe they created assets and models entirely themself? A lot of DAZ dev just re-use assets and models. SH probably too but they have shown that they like to create a lot by themself and modify heavily existent ones. To what extent i can't tell ofc but i feel like they do it quite a lot. When i play SH i never get, the well known feeling of "I have seen this models/assets hundreds of times in 50 others AVN".

But idk maybe i'm just blinded by a mild case of fanboysme, probably on final stage too lmao

Don't listen to me too much, i'm just a old man :(
I agree with you, you're not wrong, otherwise you'd make me also an old man, and I'm not even thirty yet. ;)

Law School and Tides of Succession doesn't have the high quality renders Summer Heat has for me but everyone has a different perception, that's just how it is for me.

In terms of development time, Summer Heat is actually solidly in the middle range, plus the render quality and the unique looking girls give them more credit in my case as a follower since week one february 2022.

I also agree that I haven't seen anyone like Sophie or Bree or other SH girls at other AVNs who looked similar to them, as both were designed from scratch by Robison in Blender, unlike Quinn from BAD, for example, where it seems like every AVN has a character with her DAZ3D assets.

As I understand it, Robison is the one responsible for the renders, which would also match my information that Npx is doing more of the communication, as he even joined our fan server.
 

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I agree with you, you're not wrong, otherwise you'd make me also an old man, and I'm not even thirty yet. ;)

Law School and Tides of Succession doesn't have the high quality renders Summer Heat has for me but everyone has a different perception, that's just how it is for me.

In terms of development time, Summer Heat is actually solidly in the middle range, plus the render quality and the unique looking girls give them more credit in my case as a follower since week one february 2022.

I also agree that I haven't seen anyone like Sophie or Bree or other SH girls at other AVNs who looked similar to them, as both were designed from scratch by Robison in Blender, unlike Quinn from BAD, for example, where it seems like every AVN has a character with her DAZ3D assets.

As I understand it, Robison is the one responsible for the renders, which would also match my information that Npx is doing more of the communication, as he even joined our fan server.
We are fanboys, our opinion cannot be objective..
 
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Meabe37

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Law School and Tides of Succession doesn't have the high quality renders Summer Heat has for me but everyone has a different perception, that's just how it is for me.
Only played 10 min of LS right now so i cant have a real final opinion on visual but i already know that as a game it's not gonna be for me... still i gonna have to force myself to play a bit more to be objective on it's visual^^

I'm not even thirty yet
Oh you are a baby, that's so cute :D

We are fanboys, our opinion cannot be objective..
Hey! ....well yes but also no. I think i'm pretty objective and partial. I try to apply hard logic to everything and never dismiss something even if it's not for me or i don't agree or let's my likes and preferences blind me. I liked to give far chance to everything.

Like LS here, sure i kinda want to drop the game already but i'm gonna push trough a little bit more. We never know. Just two week ago for example, i tried Wildcats for the first time: also 10 min into the game i was 1sec away from uninstalling it honestly, the beginning is very off putting but i kept going and by the end i was fully invested and i absolutely loved the game (but is still gave my feedback on how the aliasing and skins textures were pretty bad lol. And this happened to me with AVNs more time than i count so who knows maybe i'll like LS tomorrow^^

PS for what i said about Wildcats: the aliasing problem is mostly fixed by ep2 and it seems that the skins textures gonna be updated next episode, from what i saw in the previews anyway, i don't want to scare away people from trying this game :]
 
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TonyMurray

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This may be off topic in terms of the game, but since it has been discussed - this renders/day graph just came up on the LS thread and I thought I'd share for the comparisons. I don't have any details with regards to the timeframe (whether it's total game or last/current update, etc.) or what criteria led to games being selected, and therefore what other games are not shown and might otherwise appear on the list, etc. So take it with a pinch of salt, and all the usual caveats.
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Meabe37

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This may be off topic in terms of the game, but since it has been discussed - this renders/day graph just came up on the LS thread and I thought I'd share for the comparisons. I don't have any details with regards to the timeframe (whether it's total game or last/current update, etc.) or what criteria led to games being selected, and therefore what other games are not shown and might otherwise appear on the list, etc. So take it with a pinch of salt, and all the usual caveats.
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Summer heat is listed as 7.7 renders a day on the graph. But 80 divided by 7 is 11.5. So it's not accurate of the current average.

Whether it's 7 or 11 anyway, the game is still in the middle/high middle, so yeah not "extremely slow"^^
 

demon79yu

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Every time I play Westview Academy and Summer Heat it always give me satisfying and sufficient contend.So is making 6.5 renders per day a decent update-speed for a delicate game I guess?

BTW,looks like LS's developer is a maniac(y)
 

Buki

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Every time I play Westview Academy and Summer Heat it always give me satisfying and sufficient contend.So is making 6.5 renders per day a decent update-speed for a delicate game I guess?

BTW,looks like LS's developer is a maniac(y)
Or maybe the LS's developer owns a huge amount of power? Or the other developers don't know something to stamp renderings like that?) I'm curious how many renderings the same PinkCake or Ocean makes.
 
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fedecruzic

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Summer heat is listed as 7.7 renders a day on the graph. But 80 divided by 7 is 11.5. So it's not accurate of the current average.

Whether it's 7 or 11 anyway, the game is still in the middle/high middle, so yeah not "extremely slow"^^
it is much closer to the bottom than to the top, so its much closer to extremely slow, than extremely fast
 

Meabe37

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Or maybe the LS's developer owns a huge amount of power? Or the other developers don't know something to stamp renderings like that?) I'm curious how many renderings the same PinkCake or Ocean makes.
I'm playing LS right now, all the assets and models seems re-used (from what i have seen so far). It look like what i would call a minimal efforts AVN too. Clothes doesn’t looks the best, textures and a lot of models are meh. And the overall quality is not the best. One of the earlier girl you met have a tattoo on her upper torso and it's so blurry you can't even read what it's saying *facepalm*
It also suffer for the very common(in lazy avns) mild case of nobody wears bra because devs can't be bother to fit models properly and to pay attention to details. The facial expression feels out dated. And the photography and artistry of the renders are almost inexistent. Don’t get me wrong i'm harsh because i compare it to SH quality but otherwise LS it's visually okish i guess. The writing is also very mid and the game lack a bit of "soul" imo. Anyway taking the easy way probably help a lot at chuggings renders quantity. Overall while i'm a bit harsh here, it's not so bad to play, i'll probably finish the 2 episodes. It's an ok game.

Ps: Sorry Tony i don't agree with you on LS :(

it is much closer to the bottom than to the top, so its much closer to extremely slow, than extremely fast
No it's not? And I never said it was fast but it's not slow no. It's fine. No matters how many time you guys try to spam it on this thread.
If they hadn't drop the ball last update probably nobody would be saying anything about it right know.
 

Meabe37

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Damn she looks really freaking good for a side girl. This game ahah.

Random side girl casually obliterating any main girls from any other AVN.

She could be even more, I would have liked to have her as a main girl in the camp but sadly we don't have enough beds, or if we kick out Helen out of the house and she sleeps outside with the Wendigos and bears. Lol.
The problem is that we are almost gonna wish that for all the side girls given how good everyone looks lol, it's impossible sadly :cry:
 
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soprano31

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March Special Renders - Becca Set

You know, I feel like it's my duty as Parks & Rec to make sure you enjoy your stay in the forest today..."



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We decided to try something different for Becca's first time in the specials, a little glimpse into the future. Hope you enjoy!
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Really thanks Wonder Wolf to make my eyeballs fall out,my blood boil,and induce an erection that lasts for weeks :love::love:
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Paynne

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She could be even more, I would have liked to have her as a main girl in the camp but sadly we don't have enough beds, or if we kick out Helen out of the house and she sleeps outside with the Wendigos and bears. Lol.
I agree with you. Hey Northpx there's always the option of killing Helen and replacing her with Becca at the camp, just saying ;)
 

adagium

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March Special Renders - Becca Set

You know, I feel like it's my duty as Parks & Rec to make sure you enjoy your stay in the forest today..."



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becca got a full 9 img set meanwhile cassie only got 2 smh.... clear favoritism :HideThePain:
 
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