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how to do all that ? yoga in my game is same scene over and over again she tell me when i come again she show me that i don`t need clothes and i do the same scene over 70 times ! massage the same over and over again nothing new ! tutoring touch butt or lift dress or her feet nothing more how to continue ???
If you softlocked it (like i did) in your save already the update won't remedy that. You have go back before or restart.
 
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If you softlocked it (like i did) in your save already the update won't remedy that. You have go back before or restart.
i play game new version from start again and stuck ! you tell me that i need to play again from start and stuck again and play again from start how many times to do that to progress ?
 

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i play game new version from start again and stuck ! you tell me that i need to play again from start and stuck again and play again from start how many times to do that to progress ?
The end of the update should look like:

Joyce: You drive her to work and you can do yoga with her without her jacket.
Isabella: You massage her while she's on her panties.
Jane: You can touch her boobs and grab her ass.

What are you missing from that?
 

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This was pretty much a conversion update, not a content one.
Yeah,I think this is what 0.2 should be.Or at least the dev said something like that.
Hopefully next updates will do better with more content and won't add too much grind.
Also we shouldn't expect sex before 0.7 I think.Unless we are talking for some hooker:)
 

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Hopefully next updates will do better with more content and won't add too much grind.
Trust me, we all hope for that. As of now the grind i think won't lessen because the current sandbox format hardcodes it.
Also we shouldn't expect sex before 0.7 I think.Unless we are talking for some hooker:)
Thats an interesting thing. If we gonna see sex with a character currently in first or we gonna get a relief girl. Considering the quality of renders i can't say that i'd mind a relief girl :cool:
And you are actually wrong. There was sex already in the intro! I'm such a smartass sometimes :geek:
 
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I have to admit that I have just now checked it out. :) So I didn't realize it was in dev hell. That's disappointing, of course.


Absolutely - STS has awesome hand-drawn content. But the last really big update was like, how long ago? For me, and looking at the thread on it, many others as well, that dude is milking his audience. Which I'm cool with, but I just stopped caring after the last "remade Jenny update". I started getting into DAZ two years ago and I not only spent a lot of money, but the learning curve was really steep at times. I'm still learning new things everyday. It's not just about owning a big rig and it's suddenly magically rendering itself. It's a lot of learning if you want stuff to look decent. One could even weaken your "big rig" comment with the fact that you could alternatively outsource your rendering to external render farms, which is even easier if you use Poser. It's not just rigging something and be done with it. There's a good reason why this devs games look way better than 90% of Renpy games out there.

And concerning CoBD, it being the benchmark, yeah, I absolutely agree with you. But for me, the beautiful, perfect (!) renders were just like watching X-Art in comparison to some real actual porn content. Too perfect, too artsy, just didn't strike a nerve with me. Everyone is different with what he wants. But hell, sure, Phillygames do deserve every dollar they get and more. But their game has been around since February and they are already up to almost 5000 bucks a month... I don't think Dreams of Desire was cashing those bucks after less than 6 months of being around. The 25k the dev makes are a testament to this dev actually finishing a project on a high level throughout. So some of your comparisons aren't completely fair I think.


I do think that most devs are in it for the money and not for expressing their art or inner thoughts. I also think that it shows, just based on who makes the most cash, that people want hot chicks and lots of fucking over some girls that are written so well that you could actually fall in love with them just by reading their lines. I can not remember too many girls where I'd say "yeah this chick is totally unique and I'd totally recognize her out of a crowd". They do exist, but they are rare just due to the nature of these games.

And dude, I think it's important to be critical, as openly as possible. We're in this forum to talk about these games. Just stated what I think and you did the same. I'm cool with all that.
Agree with you all the way. Except the hot chicks part. Most games have them and those base assets they're not hard to modify, purchase or pirate. I agree that his models are better than most, but's not enough to redeem a game that took about 8 months to get here. That's about 200,000 usd to get to this empty 0.3.1 version. Think about that amount. He could have spent more on better coders and wouldn't have had many of the issues he had.

Devs are in it for the money, absolutely. But when it feels like the game was designed entirely around money and what would attract more patrons, which is what this feels like, the comparisons to EA aren't off. Dev did mention the unity choice too was about locking parts for higher tiers, a DRM method to generate more money that backfired.

Icstor's in it for the money too, but he's not afraid to try something new fearing he'll lose a few dollars in support. LL seems to be driven by perfectionism and fear, a trap he can't seem to break free from.
 
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But hell, sure, Phillygames do deserve every dollar they get and more. But their game has been around since February and they are already up to almost 5000 bucks a month... I don't think Dreams of Desire was cashing those bucks after less than 6 months of being around.
Philly attained most of those patrons from the previous game he made called Depraved Awakening. If anything, his patreon number hasn't increased enough since COBD came out.
 
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The end of the update should look like:

Joyce: You drive her to work and you can do yoga with her without her jacket.
Isabella: You massage her while she's on her panties.
Jane: You can touch her boobs and grab her ass.

What are you missing from that?
all :(
 

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Philly attained most of those patrons from the previous game he made called Depraved Awakening. If anything, his patreon number hasn't increased enough since COBD came out.
I'm not in the loop of things concerning such stuff. All I can say is that he deserves all the cash he gets. But I guess LLs stuff just appeals to a wider audience. Or they show it off in more places on the web.
 

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Trust me, we all hope for that. As of now the grind i think won't lessen because the current sandbox format hardcodes it.

Thats an interesting thing. If we gonna see sex with a character currently in first or we gonna get a relief girl. Considering the quality of renders i can't say that i'd mind a relief girl :cool:
And you are actually wrong. There was sex already in the intro! I'm such a smartass sometimes :geek:
Nah I don't count that girl or the others in the dream.
Well the preveiws show us more MILF,so must be good.
About the grind-at least we are not into something like Glamour.If we keep no more than SU grind level we can be OK.
 

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Play smart. Be methodical. Unlock Thorne first and foremost so that would be out of the way. Then basically stick to a location at home and skip time, each time of the day click the door. (or click on the girl who appears in the kitchen or Isa in the livingroom.) Repeat at a different location the other day and so on. This is a sandbox, there is no time limit. If there is an event tied to a location thats the fastest way to reveal it. Don't bother with the Logan's door but don't forget the bathroom and your own room.
 

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Nah I don't count that girl or the others in the dream.
Well the preveiws show us more MILF,so must be good.
About the grind-at least we are not into something like Glamour.If we keep no more than SU grind level we can be OK.
This game isn't even close to being grindy. Only the tutoring part must be repeated a couple of times, if you play correctly you don't need to repeat the massage and yoga events to progress. They're both triggered by the main story.
 

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Philly attained most of those patrons from the previous game he made called Depraved Awakening. If anything, his patreon number hasn't increased enough since COBD came out.
Almost all devs. they now have a lot of patrons is due to their first game.. And now thank God there are better games and more competition. It is difficult to live your game if you launched it just a year ago.
 

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But hell, sure, Phillygames do deserve every dollar they get and more. But their game has been around since February and they are already up to almost 5000 bucks a month... I don't think Dreams of Desire was cashing those bucks after less than 6 months of being around.
DOD
first release - more than 2.5 K
second month - more than 5K
and, yes, fist day -more than 500 bucks;)
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This game isn't even close to being grindy. Only the tutoring part must be repeated a couple of times, if you play correctly you don't need to repeat the massage and yoga events to progress. They're both triggered by the main story.
Well if the game was grindy in 0.2/don't forget that 0.3 is actualy what should be 0.2/we have a problem.
I just point that nost sandbox games turn ugly around update 5.And we better don't go to that route.
 
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DOD
first release - more than 2.5 K
second month - more than 5K
and, yes, fist day -more than 500 bucks;)
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That's crazy if true.

I guess people were really into it. There might always be the small chance that a dev pushes himself by pledging money just a bit to get a headstart and make it look like a big deal but hey, I can respect success if it's earned.
 

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Play smart. Be methodical. Unlock Thorne first and foremost so that would be out of the way. Then basically stick to a location at home and skip time, each time of the day click the door. (or click on the girl who appears in the kitchen or Isa in the livingroom.) Repeat at a different location the other day and so on. This is a sandbox, there is no time limit. If there is an event tied to a location thats the fastest way to reveal it. Don't bother with the Logan's door but don't forget the bathroom and your own room.
play from yesterday from start again and now i am on day 88 repeating same scenes ! game tell me that i unlock this or that but i can`t find those things go to street nothing go to other place nothing game tell me nothing and nothing go only to school and home ! i try to reapeat again and again but nothing change !
 

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Great animations. Actually, BEST animations of any games I played.
... But... Poor content imo, unfortunatly.

The content-unlocking-process is boring (only some repeating clicking on top of the screen until there is some new stuff), and poor story so far imo.
I DON'T like sandboxes systems, especially when you get this feeling : through your RANDOM clicks on some RANDOM rooms you advance RANDOMLY the story of some characters when you are not even sure if you missed some renters...
 

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play from yesterday from start again and now i am on day 88 repeating same scenes ! game tell me that i unlock this or that but i can`t find those things go to street nothing go to other place nothing game tell me nothing and nothing go only to school and home ! i try to reapeat again and again but nothing change !
I still think you're doing something horribly wrong. You shouldn't need to be on day 88 to see all the content. Upload your savegame here I'll look into it.
 
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