VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.996 Public] [WeirdWorld]

[Jonathan Y]

I doubt she will just let it happen, like everything concerning her, she will fight the MC as a final test for it. It's the only reason I can think of why she tried hard to get MC strong with multiple tests before HERO got her. Corruption path or not.

She wanted him to be as strong as possible because Ella serves the 3rd and 4th Apostle, and they, like all Apostles seek a worthy avatar, though they seem to be picky since they want their chosen to inherit both of their traits, body and memory, which the Mc has.

Right now Ella is the chosen of the 3rd and 4th as I see it, but she cannot be their avatar since she refused to finish the ritual by saving Christie, and because she for some reason simply is unable to inherit both of their traits, which is why she calls herself a failure and in one of the bad ends she straight up drags the Mc before the 4th, presumably for him to be consumed and serve as a avatar for them.
If the 3rd and 4th commanded her or she deems it necessary she would let the Mc consume her, Ella faithfully serves those two and their goals.

 

[Landro2340]

She wanted him to be as strong as possible because Ella serves the 3rd and 4th Apostle, and they, like all Apostles seek a worthy avatar, though they seem to be picky since they want their chosen to inherit both of their traits, body and memory, which the Mc has.

Right now Ella is the chosen of the 3rd and 4th as I see it, but she cannot be their avatar since she refused to finish the ritual by saving Christie, and because she for some reason simply is unable to inherit both of their traits, which is why she calls herself a failure and in one of the bad ends she straight up drags the Mc before the 4th, presumably for him to be consumed and serve as a avatar for them.
If the 3rd and 4th commanded her or she deems it necessary she would let the Mc consume her, Ella faithfully serves those two and their goals.

You know, I have always wondered if that was the case, then why did the following happen:

1) She at the beginning of the game had chosen Jake, James and Kenny. If she was serving the 3rd and 4th, and they wanted an avatar, why bother with those 3 then? During the frat party she even asks herself if it really had to be the MC. Now Jake I understand was a potential chosen for Authority, I doubt Body or Memory would let her chosen (Ella according to you) serve Authority's goals.

2) Didn't she tell the Body to fuck off once she reached LVL 5? That she was going to do things her own way? I don't know, I doubt she serves those two apostles at all and she wouldn't be the first one, we have seen Aos and Sylas not being fond of their apostles, so being a chosen doesn't mean that they have to follow their wishes. The 6th wants Aos killed after all.

With that being said, it would be dissapointing to not have a final clash between Ella and the MC, regardless of their relationship (hateful or romantic). I feel Ella herself could become the avatar of evolution since she can eat monsters/humans the same way the MC does. If MC loses that fight she could eat him and become evolution.

 

[Uriel ☁]

Ella's doll will consume Ella's dead body and regain her normal form. She still won't have all her memories and her previous lvl5 strength, but will be more akin to a lvl4. That way she won't have deus ex knowledge and she'll be in the power range of MC and the gang.

Much later in the story she'll have the natural lvl5 evolution that OG Ella never had (she used the serum) and regain all her memories.

Just my theory.

 

[Jonathan Y]

You know, I have always wondered if that was the case, then why did the following happen:

1) She at the beginning of the game had chosen Jake, James and Kenny. If she was serving the 3rd and 4th, and they wanted an avatar, why bother with those 3 then? During the frat party she even asks herself if it really had to be the MC. Now Jake I understand was a potential chosen for Authority, I doubt Body or Memory would let her chosen (Ella according to you) serve Authority's goals.

2) Didn't she tell the Body to fuck off once she reached LVL 5? That she was going to do things her own way? I don't know, I doubt she serves those two apostles at all and she wouldn't be the first one, we have seen Aos and Sylas not being fond of their apostles, so being a chosen doesn't mean that they have to follow their wishes. The 6th wants Aos killed after all.

With that being said, it would be dissapointing to not have a final clash between Ella and the MC, regardless of their relationship (hateful or romantic). I feel Ella herself could become the avatar of evolution since she can eat monsters/humans the same way the MC does. If MC loses that fight she could eat him and become evolution.

Well, first James and Kenny were monsterfied spawn of the Myniak, and the Myniak is a descendant of either the 3rd or 4th, this makes sense since you can make that giant Myniak submit to you if your corruption is high enough, and when it submits it sees either the 3rd or 4th in your shadow and it submits.

As to why Ella bothers with Jake....it's because whilst she is the chosen of the 3rd and 4th she, atleast on the surface, serves the goals of all Apostles, which is to find a perfect avatar through a perfect spawn.
This is true for most chosen other than Aos, Valravn and Sylla, they all are exclusively loyal to their creators but they serve the common goals of all Apostles in one way or another. So yes, whilst the Apostles have some rivalry and grudges between them ( as seen if you consume Jake, you see the first quarrel with the 3rth and 4th ), I think all Apostles at the surface work towards the same goal, so yeah I think Body and Memory would not go out of their way to prohibit their chosen from serving the goals of another Apostle.

This theory that Apostles share the same goal is in my view solidified by the fact that Ella, Aglaeqwif, Eisheath and to an extent, the Rebis, all chosen of different apostles, have a shaky alliance going on and all have helped eachother throughout varios points in the story, Indra would likely also help them if he wasn't such a hardass. If Apostles were so openly hostile to eachother they would not let their chosen work together, but they do, because they have the same goals.

Meanwhile, the outliers are Valravn, the chosen of The Lord Of Dark, who is hostile to all other Apotles and Aos and Sylla who chose to abandon their duty to further the goals of Apostles in exchange for their own personal goals, and paid the price for abandoning their common cause.

And SPOILER FOR THE LATE GAME :

Why do you think Indra, a chosen of Power, would be so offended and hellbent on revenge because Sylla ditched her duty to Memory ? Because Apostles share the same goals, and so do their chosen.

And lastly, sorry but I'm lost here, when did she tell Body to fuck off ? I can't for the life of me remember.

 

[Landro2340]

And lastly, sorry but I'm lost here, when did she tell Body to fuck off ? I can't for the life of me remember.

Well, I am not even sure if it was the Body. When Ella takes the serum, she hears a voice in her head and tells them to go to sleep. My theory is that is the Body making a connection with her, perhaps telling her she isn't the chosen one to become evolution or it could be something else.

Also, I wouldn't put Aglae serving the Apostles, she wants a child that's able to kill the gods. As to who does she consider the gods beats me. She, along with the Rebis are helping Ella because she stole their hearts. Eishet IIRC showed up out of nowhere and decided to help, perhaps being told by Tanos.

TL;DR: Ella and the rest are going with their own agenda, none of them seem that fanatical to their apostles, the exceptions being the overgrown bird and Indra. But hey, I could be proved wrong by the developer later on. If only we weren't stuck in this Monster World...

 

[Jonathan Y]

Well, I am not even sure if it was the Body. When Ella takes the serum, she hears a voice in her head and tells them to go to sleep. My theory is that is the Body making a connection with her, perhaps telling her she isn't the chosen one to become evolution or it could be something else.

Also, I wouldn't put Aglae serving the Apostles, she wants a child that's able to kill the gods. As to who does she consider the gods beats me. She, along with the Rebis are helping Ella because she stole their hearts. Eishet IIRC showed up out of nowhere and decided to help, perhaps being told by Tanos.

TL;DR: Ella and the rest are going with their own agenda, none of them seem that fanatical to their apostles, the exceptions being the overgrown bird and Indra. But hey, I could be proved wrong by the developer later on. If only we weren't stuck in this Monster World...

Lmao yeah it is pretty funny to me though. Like we make all these theories held together by strings of information we gathered, and who knows which are gonna be true or not in the end.
Maaaan I can't wait for the next update, also the Monster World arc is pretty much finished isn't it ? Wait or maybe the next update will be the gang chilling with Aos and his family in the monster world.
But I hope we get to see more of the human world, though short, the scenes where Aglaeqwif taunts Mallik and when Indra meets Zack were so hype.

 

[Landro2340]

But I hope we get to see more of the human world, though short, the scenes where Aglaeqwif taunts Mallik and when Indra meets Zack were so hype.

I was so sad when WW cucked us out of Malik vs Glae and Zack vs Indra man, that shit really hurt. We've seen the bird and Eishet in action, Aos a bit through Syla's abilities and while we saw Indra stomp Syla, I wanted to see him faring vs a HERO captain, even if Zack isn't considered as strong as the big 3.

 

[SasugaRyzeSama]

Why do you think Indra, a chosen of Power, would be so offended and hellbent on revenge because Sylla ditched her duty to Memory ? Because Apostles share the same goals, and so do their chosen.

Maybe it's the human logic speaking, in contrast to "mysterious goals and ways" of apostles, but if they had the same goals, it would not be unusual for 3rd and 4th to work together. Maybe it's their way of bickering over details, dunno.

Also, hating on apostates isn't uncommon, even if you did not worship the god of the one that abandoned it's faith, even when from different religions altogether. Quite few examples of that through the ages, like vikings despising christians that left their faith for one reason or another, romans boiling alive some priests of greek gods that came over to worship their gods(xd for that one); even some christians, even though supposed to be all happy and all when new sheep joins the herd, were not always welcoming with open arms. Not the matter of being faithful in itself - the more zealous you are, the less it matters, and Indra seems to be turned up to eleven on zeal specifically.

 

[shujuku]

mist or beast

 

[Landro2340]

Not the matter of being faithful in itself - the more zealous you are, the less it matters, and Indra seems to be turned up to eleven on zeal specifically.

It's interesting that Indra when invading earth says that human's arrogance reminds him of himself in the past when he wielded such weapons. All the chosen could've been superhumans at one point, or I at least I think so (even Syla when congratulating MC on his 3rd evolution says "it takes her back"). Wonder what made him such a devout follower of the Apostles.

Valravn's case is understandable, the Lord of the Dark, rather than kill him in order to turn him into a spawn saved his life instead (ironic for a being whose darkness is his thing). He has a lifedebt there with the 7th.

 

[Deleted member 8357933]

How much content is there for the female shapeshifted MC?

 

[Apittora]

got animation ?

 

[stonbear]

Nah, He does raise good points. Let's face it, Liz only showed interest in the mc, after he became superhuman. It's insulting.

Amber? She was with Deryl, a bully who was fucking around on her. The guy is trash, She remained with him, despite his cheating, despite him beating up weaker kids(wanna bet the mc was not the only one?).
Only after he hit her sister by mistake does she call him out on it.

Liz is a willing slut who more than likely has a body count in the hundreds (nothing wrong with that, it just shows she is not girlfriend material), Amber is a hypocrite.

Alice is... meh in my opinion? Far better that Liz and Amber though.

He didn't though.

1) Liz only rejected the MC because she thought she wasn't good enough for him. In a flashback she even considers being his gf if all he wants from her is sex, which he doesn't, so they don't get together. You think she'd have a body count in the hundreds? She's 19 and tells MC that she has a specific type, which he fits, which is also quite unique. You don't have a body count in the hundreds under those circumstances.

2) Amber didn't have sex with Deryl or lose her virginity to him... she lost it to her most recent boyfriend when she was 18, like 4-5 years after Amber and Deryl broke up. I'm not sure if OP is trolling, because it's not hard to remember and it's on the wiki. Yeah she should've broken up with Deryl long before she did, but she was 13-14 at the time... Most don't act rationally at that age. In what way is Amber a hypocrite?

3) I don't even know what his point with Alice is. She's never had an interest in Michael, they're siblings in everything but blood (her own words).

To sum it up, OP is either trolling or lacks reading comprehension, alongside you.

 

[Jonathan Y]

I was so sad when WW cucked us out of Malik vs Glae and Zack vs Indra man, that shit really hurt. We've seen the bird and Eishet in action, Aos a bit through Syla's abilities and while we saw Indra stomp Syla, I wanted to see him faring vs a HERO captain, even if Zack isn't considered as strong as the big 3.

Oh I doubt Zack would fight Indra, the way I thought it would go down is he would manipulate him to fight Malik or Bernhardt, prolly Malik though.
It makes no sense for Zack to take a active fighting role his abbilities are much better suited to directing others from afar so I doubt HERO would put him on the front lines.
I think we will get Indra vs Malik.
And I think we'll finally see a captain either go down or be humbled, I mean Indra literally was a avatar for Power

 

[bfc233]

And I think we'll finally see a captain either go down or be humbled, I mean Indra literally was a avatar for Power

If that isn't Bernhardt we're in deep shit.

Narratively, he's the beef gate, the Godzilla threshold, the pillar that keeps the world from falling.

If Malik is the one to get humbled, that means we're still not past the point of maximum fucked-up-ness even though we're in the literal apocalypse.

It also means a chance increase that MC vs Bernhardt will happen. Which is something that excites me to no end.

 

[Landro2340]

If that isn't Bernhardt we're in deep shit.

Narratively, he's the beef gate, the Godzilla threshold, the pillar that keeps the world from falling.

If Malik is the one to get humbled, that means we're still not past the point of maximum fucked-up-ness even though we're in the literal apocalypse.

It also means a chance increase that MC vs Bernhardt will happen. Which is something that excites me to no end.

I think Malik and Bernhardt are around the same level, poor guy gets disrespect cuz the Strength eater ambush did him dirty during the Diamonds Battle lol (Ella was prepared). But yeah, both scenarios would be dope.

Henri is the wild card in this whole mess tho, dude keeps hammering humanity can't be beaten as long as he exists. He reminds me of the MC, he has Truth and Fantasy traits but for whatever reason he doesn't want to ascend into Paradox. I think this guy could be the final boss of this whole story if he ascends, so yeah, gimmie that Henri vs MC WW pls.

 

[fanzloh]

How close are we to the ending because I'm gonna be hones, I don't want this game to end

 

[bfc233]

I think Malik and Bernhardt are around the same level, poor guy gets disrespect cuz the Strength eater ambush did him dirty during the Diamonds Battle lol (Ella was prepared). But yeah, both scenarios would be dope.

Henri is the wild card in this whole mess tho, dude keeps hammering humanity can't be beaten as long as he exists. He reminds me of the MC, he has Truth and Fantasy traits but for whatever reason he doesn't want to ascend into Paradox. I think this guy could be the final boss of this whole story if he ascends, so yeah, gimmie that Henri vs MC WW pls.

I agree.

But this is all about presentation and characterization.

Malik is too humane, too approachable and too cool headed.

Bernhardt is both too laser focused and to easy to give into his darker emotions, such that it's far easier to see him go beyond the pale to achieve his mission. Especially when he doesn't have both Malik's help and judgement to keep him down.

Henri is simply too unique to have an easy place in the story. He's either going to paradox himself out of existence and into a higher plane in some glorious way or going to get plot'd.

 

[Landro2340]

I agree.

But this is all about presentation and characterization.

Malik is too humane, too approachable and too cool headed.

Bernhardt is both too laser focused and to easy to give into his darker emotions, such that it's far easier to see him go beyond the pale to achieve his mission. Especially when he doesn't have both Malik's help and judgement to keep him down.

You're right on the money there, I just recalled Ella being able to survive Malik because she got ahold of a couple HERO grunts while being burned, forcing him to let go. So yeah in that part, Bernie got the edge.

Henri is simply too unique to have an easy place in the story. He's either going to paradox himself out of existence and into a higher plane in some glorious way or going to get plot'd.

That'd be dissapointing tbh, he's the closest we have of an Arbiter besides the MC. Maybe that power is too much and he loses his shit, maybe if the MC reaches completion he senses a rival. Idk, he def has potential in the story, why else is WW dropping those hints with this guy being HERO ultimate weapon and all.

 

[dragonlord6789]

If Ella became a superhuman as a child, doesn't that mean she gets the same boosts to her evolutions, and physical strength other child superhumans like Cole get because her growth would be linked to her evolutions? Does that mean that even at similar power and skill, she would hit harder than the Mc?